Coping: The Ongoing Marketing of Climate Change, FTM

A comment to a Reader: Follow the Money (FTM)

Normally I wouldn’t take the time to write a “Dear Jon” response, but the holidays are a slow time around here, and after sitting for two hours Monday while teeth were cleaned and a crown for a back molar were prepping, the pain must have put things into perspective.

Let me start at the beginning of his comments:

“I am a new reader, and if things don’t improve, I may be a former reader. A friend that I used to work with reads this blog and I thought I would give you a try, but after just a week, it seems to be just another blind, alt right disinformation rag.”

Well, since UrbanSurvival is about both going rural and sustainable, and predates the last couple of presidents (being first first published in 1997) I feel that’s a troll-like thing to say.  I like emails that begin “Howdy!”

I would propose that since we have been writing about the dueling dual-business model war since 1997 that there is no “Alt-Right” bias here.   In fact, I would suggest “Alt-Urban” would be a better and more honest fit.

When this site started talking about going rural and sustainable, we were the only outpost tying economics, new rural, and alternate energy and lifestyle.  Ex-Urbans, that’s us.  Since ’97, we have been ripped off by (pardon the spin here) the alt-left and the alt-rippers.

“A few things…It hasn’t been called Global Warming in over a decade. We have rightly corrected that broad term and the proper terminology is Climate Change, which is a disruption of climate patterns caused by man made pollution. That could mean more snow, rain or even drought like conditions. It’s a disruption of the weather. I don’t understand why that is so hard for you alt-righters to understand. There is not a scientist on this planet that hasn’t been bought out by big oil that would ever dispute climate change. “

Climate change has been ongoing for millions of years.  Read that several times.  It is only since the Obama-arranged funding of the Carbon Exchange that it has become a grown up business model.

No one pay attention to YOUR distinction, Jon.  Google has 72.6-million hits on Global Warming. 118-million on climate change.

Near as I can figure it, we have seen Climateers spend $1-trillion (plus or minus a peanut butter sandiwch) to shift Google results.  If it will make you happy, though, I am pleased to say Global Climate Change, but since that is a million-years old (and occurring on other planets) the distinction is absurd.  This is Alarmist found-out, pure and simple.

The easiest cover-up?  Walk-it-back and relingo it.  Works every time.

Arghh! You started off with a bad premise (being apparently wedded the “George is an alt righty” ) before noting we have been around since long before.

AND you show tremendous ignorance of how public perceptions and agendas are manipulated. Your loss, but no, Big Oil doesn’t run around passing out checks. We have lots of friends in the oil business, starting with the 600 acre oil reserve across the street from our property here in East Texas. Rig engineers, geologists, why these people have been gipped by big oil!  Tell us where to get the money, please!

You should understand if you’re going to continue reading this site a couple of important facts about our take on things should be recalled.

1.This is probably the only site you read that is actually powered by solar panels. Yessir, since 2008 we have been making 3.5 kWh of power for as long as the sun is out (and at a reasonable hour). So my first introduction to UrbanSurvival should include mention that yes, we are greener than all the other sites you’ll run across. This is not to say our servers are, sadly. These live in a dual-access colocation center. But the office and basics here are as green as can be. And yes, we took $28,000 and built grid-interactive in 2007/2008. We knew costs would come down, but we do like to keep a small carbon footprint.

That wouldn’t make me an alt righty, would it?  How many watts of solar do you have installed at your home?

2.The second thing I would point out is that my wife and I don’t just live the “sustainable talk” existence. She drives a 2005 Lexus, which makes it 11-years old. I drive a 2001 Dodge pick-up which is 15-years and turning 16 by model year. Please advise us what year auto you drive. I’m frankly curious.  Small side wager says you drive a newer car.

3.Finally, Urban is not about right/left. We call conservatives and liberals the right and the left because they are all tools of the really rich. In our world, yes, we have droughts, yes we have floods. But floods and droughts appear in Biblical times, see other notable floods in history here.

Since you’re offering to help re-edjumacate us, inferred by taking the time to write, can you please explain to us which of these floods (and the biggest droughts over here) could have been prevented by “raising public awareness” and trying to roll out a carbon exchange and tax scam?

The recent California ands upper Midwest droughts are explained by El Nino/La Nina movement in the literature. Syria is from ongoing deforestation and desertification similar to what’s going on in the Amazon. But these are not “Climate change” issues.

You see, at the heart of it, these are business-model induced disasters with the Amazon’s yet to com. We anxiously look forward to your help understand the man-caused aspects of the other droughts on the list and I’m sure our other readers do as well.

You then continue:

“Second, if this is supposed to be an intellectual exchange of ideas, you need to stop acknowledging that Trump has any signs of an intelligent thought in that pea brain of his. “

This is just my opinion, but that sure sounds like an anti-Trump ad hominem attack. Aren’t you supposed to be “above” such things?

Back to your note:

“I travel abroad a lot. I am tired of answering the same question over and over from international business colleagues. “What the F…. were you Americans thinking?” America is a world wide joke now. One Swiss friend told me that Europe sees Trump as that spoiled, obnoxious and grossly underachieving class clown that happened to be born into money.”

I would offer that people in Europe have swallowed the bitter marketing pill of the Globalists to their own detriment. None of the Swiss bankers I know would make such a foolish charge, so I must assume you are in medicine or manufacturing (IT?) not finance.  Work for an automaker and deal with dealers and you may not know when you’re being worked over by them… . Some people will say damn near anything they think the audience wants to hear.

People in Finance recognize that the leaders of Europe have sold the region down the river by a) installing a second level of bureaucracy that sits atop national interests and b) have perpetrated pro-Islamic immigration policies. Have you forgotten the French riots of several years back?

You must understand that one’s ethnic and cultural heritage is a kind of power-base when looked at through the economic prism. Thus, it is entirely understandable WHY the globalist minions are so anxious to keep their take alive. Divide and conquer, rinse and repeat.  Screw the  borders and the laws, lol. 

Take a good look at how it works: The UK has voted to get the hell out of Europe (BREXIT vote last summer) and yet the globalists have kept the flow of money going (and favors and whatever) such that now even though the democratic processes of the UK have voted yes on a referendum, the next layer of power up has said (in so many words) “screw this, you’re not going to be allowed to trigger Artlcle 50..” People in Europe are living in a morally decayed sewer and they just keep drinking the globalist Kool-Aid; failing to see how divide and conquer really works in their own back yard.

That Donald Trump has a different view must be reviled and hated to keep Europe from coming to its senses and remain broken. m We understand.

“There is a growing worldwide revolt that revolves around Trump and his alt right leanings and this WILL and already has had an affect our ability to export and market our brands. We all have heard of the term, the Ugly American? Well, we just got a lot uglier. I know…That’s a big part of my job.”

Again, I ask you to reconsider, Jon. The ONLY worldwide revolt is the one presently aimed at Electors in the U.S. who are being subjected to extreme pressures to change their vote for a crooked woman of “questionable foundations” who, as we learned in the campaign admits to being two-faced with the “public versus private” positions discussion. Think she’d be any better?

“As a branding expert, this will eventually destroy American made and invented “must have products” mystique. “

I too an a branding expert but I have a different take on things than you. My surveys (airline passengers on international flights in the Caribbean) showed me in the mid 1980’s what the problem was. It’s NOT the “Ugly American” crap that you lean on (which means you are likely over 40). No, it’s that we don’t make (language alert) really great shit like we once did.

Cars? Lexus hands down.

Phones? Apple (made by Foxconn in China)

TVs? Korea, Japan, Thailand

Refrigerators? Korea.


You beginning to get the point??

The high-end “gotta have it” stuff has nothing to do with Trump or which party. It’s all about battles of the bottom line and a tax program that encourages cooking the books through tax havens and so forth. My counsel to you Jon would be look at revenue more closely, how it’s routed, how it’s taxed, and so forth. I think it is there you will find the root of many of Americas problems.

“Since, we have elected this idiot, we are being depicted in the press in Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa and South America as as a bunch of brainless hillbillies. This has already been reflected in the retail sales of American made products worldwide.”

Jon, I expect I’m older than you.  Might have a few more data points to assemble.

We have always been the whipping boys of the alt-left press. Especially in Europe. 

Some things just never change. And yes, we do have a bunch of brainless hillbillies at times.  Take that Arkansas crowd.

But as I reminded my marketing director (a former British Lord, BTW) in my airline days “Ask your people in Europe is they are such a bunch of kick-ass do-gooders, why did we, the USA, have to bail their sorry asses out of not one, but TWO WORLD WARS?

People of Europe are, as Elaine’s saying goes “very proud of their pride.” It’s rooted in quicksand, or slow-sand in the case of the EU implosion.  Did you know paper and ink can float a whole consortium of broke countries for several decades?

“It is starting in the combustion engine Auto industry, because of Trumps unwise choices for the EPA and climate denying statements. This is more apparent in Europe and Asia. They get the problem…Asia is living the problem with the planets worst air quality. They want change and they feel that Trump will reverse the positive impacts of cleaner air and are ready to boycott traditional Detroit made products that they feel are the crux of the problem. That said, The world IS embracing our electric cars like Tesla, Chevy’s Volt and Bolt and can’t wait for Faradays introduction into the auto race. Those are the anti Trump products. Which gave us an idea.

You see, while others see a problem, I already know where the big opportunities are and our focus will shift at least globally. We have made the short term decision help market those aforementioned anti-Trump products and minimize our exposure on products that represent Trumps policies. We are already focused on ground breaking software and hardware technology, (machine learning, AI, etc) but are making a major, major push into alernative energy, wearables and other innovative and disruptive products that are antithetical to the Trump agenda. “

Says who? I haven’t heard Trump say it, and his choices for office won’t stop your new product roll-outs. And like I said, I too are into green and going greener.

I will grant you I like the EU’s ban on styro packing – good move.  But tearing down borders?  27 kinds of dumb.

BTW, since we do share an interest in lower energy-per-capita, you will really enjoy out “How Windows Became Obsolete” article from November 7. (It’s hard to paint us firmly into an alt-righty box when we too go chasing the same future… As I once told a strong-ego’ed colleague, though, just remember the future is a shared result and no one person or organization has a lock on it.

“Most of these are West coast or New York/ Boston-companies that overwhelmingly voted against Trump. That will be the key to our success abroad. “

No, companies do not vote. I know I take that out of context but the reason so many of the sillycon valley kids and the software forest and robotics groups voted against Trump was because of the beautiful smears that were done. Easy? Sure. Most employees in these outfits are under 40 – the most gullible age of all.

“While American heartland products are now being vilified overseas, most coastal companies will still represent America proudly.”

Again, check the facts. American heartland products include this stuff called “food.” I expect after three days of principles the vilification of American-based grains will go the way of the balance of American-hater bullsh^t.

“The only good to come out of a Trump presidency is being able to rid our portfolio of our low margin, low tech, products and switch to more high margin anti-Trump innovative technology products that could actually turn around our global presence.”

Maybe for your company. But see our work on how we are echoing the run-up of the US Market in 1929 as more cautionary. 

Jon, it is “Not going to be different” this time.  It will be worse.

We heard it all the way to the top back at the top of the 1920s “Buy Radio Trust!”

Sorry to burst the bubble, but when you get older (much older) you will see more clearly how the fashions in politics go and how the cash paintbrush of the alt-rich-f**ks is applied to all those not running the stampede in their direction.

But thanks for writing and you have good, although youthful and you do not question enough.

References to Global Warming/ Climate Change have not disappeared.  They are being mixed with every intensively-marketed paradigm out there, like LBGT:

Try this quote from November 18th on this site: “Today is gender and education day at the COP22 in Marrakech. Gender equality and the empowerment of women is written into the preamble of last December’s Paris Agreement, the climate treaty that President Obama ratified without sending to the Senate for its advice and consent. ‘Gender justice is climate justice,’ as one feminist NGO puts it.”

I admit to getting old.  Blatherspeak like “Gender justice is climate justice” using linguistics rewrites as “Sex justice is weather justice!”  Yes, let’s promote Global Sex Change!   Am I getting it now?

Oh, wait, that’s already being marketed.  Silly Ures truly….

Your generation doesn’t know much about “justice” sad to say.  But gender-flipping sloganism,well, yes, your generation does seem to have that down.

I will tell you with near-certainty that what Obama has done on climate is ILLEGAL. A treaty NOT being referred for ratification is not optional. It is therefore not law, not matter how Obama may posture.  Trump seems to grasp that.

Please refer to the U.S. Senate documents here.

“The constitutional requirement that the Senate approve a treaty with a two-thirds vote means that successful treaties must gain support that overcomes partisan division.”

I hope you have enjoyed your brief visit to this site but I am disappointed with your brash labeling and lack of economic discernment at the macro level.

There is an us (poor) and a them (rich) and you have fallen into their (right) versus (left) trap which is the classical answer to how the rich remain rich and we remain poor.

P.S. if you are in an auto-related field, could you tell us how powder-coating wheels black or gray actually justifies a $65,000 price tag for a #x$$#%^ 4X4 pickup?  I’m having a hard time keeping up.  Is there some magic to this or (as I fear) are people really that stupid?  Another buddy of mine just bought a decked out Denali that was pushing six-large.  Thanks.

And thanks for being a reader for both remaining seconds.

Missing Toy Name

Elaine and I are stuck for a toy name. 

Seems there was a toy back in the 1960’s or 1970’s that was made of a material and when you put it on your arm, it would move when petted

I thought it was Mr. Snuggles, or something like that.  So if you remembers it – looked like a pink or blue snake made from fabric, please let us know?  Thanks.

Oh, now you wonder why?

Well, Elaine bought this new microfiber blanket which seems to move in the night due to natural motion.  When put on the bed one way, it “moves” over to her side of the bed.  (who’s would blame it?)

When put on the bed the other way around, it moves to my side – which h is nearly incomprehensible.

So both of us remember there being this toy that you would put on your arm and pet – and it would move.

But here in early-onset aging, damned if either one of us can remember itts name.  Again, thank you.

Gone the way of the Ch….Ch….Ch….Chia Tree, we fear.

Write when you get rich,

68 thoughts on “Coping: The Ongoing Marketing of Climate Change, FTM”

  1. There was a furry snake like thing in blue that had fishing line on the head and you could make it look like it moves.

  2. Kudos George! Awesome retort/comeback/response/jab/put-down. Troll first came to mind when I saw this comment yesterday as well. Seem to be a lot more of them showing up lately.

    • It’s winter and lacking a Hillary Revolution, they just need something to do perhaps? Bullshove-its I think of them as…but hopefully (one-time reader Jon) will cowboy up and confess to his hypnotism and move on into the future with us.

      • George, since I’m in my 60’s I agree with a lot of what you said. I’m coming to believe that a large majority of people should have “My mind is made up don’t confuse me with the facts’ tattooed across their foreheads. Sadly most would not reassess their views unless presented with an ‘extreme traumatic emotional event’. And even then a large portion would never admit (even to themselves) that they might have been wrong to their dying breath. They don’t have the cognitive skills to break their programming/indoctrination.
        No political party shares my views, some things I agree with the right on to a degree, while on other things I agree with the left also to an agree.
        I have non-traditional viewpoints on a lot of things. Take right to life for example. I personally am opposed to abortion except in extreme circumstances. But I also believe that my being male renders me not qualified on this issue since it is something that cannot be applied to me. I think that only women should make the decision on law pertaining to the issue. There now I’ve inflamed both the right and the left.
        And in closing I agree with Robert A. Heinlein’s quote on “Specialization is for insects”. I’ve done all but 3 things on that list but could make a good try at 2 of those. You understand that I’d like to put off the last item for a good number of years.

        James Johnson, ex-nuke

  3. I’m so tired of the left-right paradigm. I don’t fit neatly into either camp. We need a common sense party.

    I pick and choose from your blog, while doing the same with others. I don’t care what direction you lean, if you have good information and the ability to look to the future, I will read you. I’ve been reading your blog for at least 8-10 years, not sure.

    While I have been a strong liberal/progressive all my life, I now find myself looking at this group with a WTF? The love affair with unfettered immigration, gun control and HILLARY CLINTON are driving me away.

    I am enjoying Trump. I can’t see how he could possibly be a worse choice than Hillary. He likes to stir the pot and the idea of him Tweeting out some of these scathing remarks early in the morning that are giving some of the biggest corporations fits are pretty funny. I have to wonder if he isn’t scooping up stock two hours later when their shared go through the floor.

    Like Bernie Sanders, he has raised questions that need to be raised, whether he has any answers is another matter. He has moved the conversation into forbidden territory. The talk radio I listen to is frantically trying to pull back the idea that we need to change our trade policies.

    Unfortunately, he seems to be filling his cabinet with people who will savage the voting public just like the previous several presidents. All now safely back in office, they will go back to destroying the county and raping the public in favor of corporate power.

    • The only person in the executive branch that can’t be fired by the president is the vice president. All the rest are there by leave of the president. Trump has practiced for years to say “you’re fired”, and I trust that non-performing and disloyal employees will be given the boot.

      • They may be performing just fine and loyal, that doesn’t guarantee the voters are not going to get rolled.

        If you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu. I don’t see any regular folks at Trump’s table.

  4. Sadly every time the left rears it’s ugly head the body count has two commas. In their quest for justice and explaining their failures as not having done enough, expect three commas this time.

    • I’m just trying to “get” the connection between gender-render and weather…and damned if I can grok that kinda of bullshoi

  5. George-

    I remember that toy but like yourself and Elaie cannot for the life of me recall its moniker. I actually had one -looked kinda’ like a roadkilled Weasel, flat as a pancake with big black dead eyes. My cat immediately assumed it was his and it vanished shortly after entering the house! But what little time I had it.. it WAS more fun than those hideous little Troll dolls with the neon hair! I much preferred the kinetic energy of a handful of Super Balls and basic physics of the Mood Ring. Wasn’t it FUN to be young!

  6. George, Re your new, soon to be former, reader. Its hard to believe some of the folks around do not have some degree of mental retardation. Whilst logic might suggest that human pollution can exacerbate local and short term conditions, Climate change has to be primarily effected by that big shiny thing in the sky.
    Not to get into conspiracy theories, HAARP, brought to many by Jesse Ventura, but way more deserving than that, has a way more than coincidental chance of indicating some level of human, or at least governmental, occasional control over local climate, but still not enough to overcome global effects.

    If someone can’t sort the wheat from the chaff of your posts, don’t worry about them too much, you don’t need their money. It does seem that intentional climate manipulation may be an order of magnitude higher than incidental pollution.

    Biker Denis.

    • A favorite quote of mine, attributed to François-Marie Arouet (aka Voltaire) but claimed by Evelyn Beatrice Hall (as her interpretation of Voltaire’s intent), is: “I disapprove of what You say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Gone are such sentiments in American politics these days, where leaders consistently engage in intelligent discourse and healthy debate. Yet the refusal to debate is a tactic literally first founded and successfully defined by counter-culture community organizer Saul Alinsky (See: Rules for Radicals) and immediately embraced by the liberal-progressive left. Alinsky’s Rule #5 states: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.” I find it sweetly ironic that this Rule was turned around by candidate Trump and used against his opposition. He first threw the GOP primary field and later HRC completely off message by effectively using Rule #5. Yet this was only part of Trump’s genius. He also used Alinsky’s Rule 2: “Never go outside the experience of your people. The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.” Trump stayed true on this rule, satisfying his base and luring in enough stragglers in key states to pull off the election upset. Like Trump or not, his use of Alinsky tactics against the progressive left was absolutely brilliant. The left had no comeback, no viable counter-attack. Oh, it was fine for Bill Clinton or Barack Obama to initiate Alinsky’s tactics, but God forbid the GOP should ever preach the word of Saul! Trump’s coup de grace was using Alinsky’s Rule 13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.” Trump “targeted, personalized and polarized” Hillary’s candidacy. Turn about is fair play, eh Jon. C’est la vie!

  7. George – as someone who has been reading your blog since 2007, who is neither dem nor republican, who never voted for Obama, Trump or Hillary – you are biased towards republicans and getting more so. The nice thing about not having any set political leaning is that my opinions go where the facts lead me. Others find “facts” to support their opinions (confirmation bias) or ignore facts that conflict with their “opinion”.

    You mention the Clinton Foundation, but never mention the Trump Foundation, which has admitted to wrongdoing and “self-dealing”.

    It’s odd you dismiss human impact on weather. Insurance companies are setting up reserves for it (very smart actuaries). The Pentagon is planning for it. Even Big Oil which funds misinformation mightily is preparing its PP&E for rising tides.

    Big Oil braced for global warming while it fought regulations

    A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation

    Climate change is real: Just ask the Pentagon

  8. Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

  9. If global warming were a problem..the US government would not be using atmospheric heaters like HAARP.
    I wonder if the soon-to-be-former reader could explain why the universe is warming up, from neptune towards the sun. Or anyone else, for that matter. This person needs to be locked in a room with Piers Corbyn for awhile.

  10. Please folks, learn the difference between HICK and HILLBILLY. Anybody can be a hick, but to be a hillbilly you must be born in the mountains. I am proud to be a West Virginia Hillbilly. Even being a WVaH I have managed to earn a science Ph.D., worked in several high prestige positions, published science papers, wrote a successful book,and invented some health related procedures and products used by people in countries all over the world. And, if civilisation crashes I might not notice, except for the internet, because I am very self sufficient. The hicks? Well, they are the problem.

      • Howdy George,

        I think you’re being too kind regarding K street creatures. I’d be thinking more like criminals, perverts, etc. Thanks for the response rant to Jon. You saved me the effort and probably did a better job.

  11. Great response to Jon. I hope Jon will print out or file his letter and your response for reading in about 10 years. He will be surprised at his lack of grasp, how little most of this stuff changes and how your ability to drill down far dilutes most media spin.

  12. The Religious Left have certain immutable principles, not subject to true debate. In the 20thcentury, Collectivism was proudly crowned with “Dialectic Materialism” as the “scientific” basis of Marxist thought, usually called something else in the West, like “progressive” “liberal” or whatever term the general public hadn’t soured on at the time.

    The hallmark of dialectic materialism, and its numerous follow-on sects, is that no matter what it predicts, and no matter what actually happens thereafter, it was ALWAYS right. And it is based on “science”.

    These days, only the goofiest individuals still publically tout this “science” because it is so laughable. So they need new dogma disguised as science to push their agendas. Green parties are chock full of former hard core collectivists who couldn’t scrape together enough votes to get on a ballot if they said what they really thought, but could be taken seriously if they removed the serial numbers of their ideas, gave them a new title, and repainted them green. Just like car theft.

    I think the man made climate theory is plausible. I have twice the solar panels George has, use biofuels for much of my domestic use, have older cars, and have had a car that gets over 40 mpg since 1995. My house uses less than half of the energy the Climate control tables predict. In a pinch, I could switch from solar pumped well water to rainwater, which I now collect for organic gardening. I have a pending agricultural tax exemption, based on beekeeping, on land too rocky to farm, and too dry and rocky to sustain grazing animals in reasonable health. Most of my vegetables come from raised beds on this land. Show me a prominent Warmist who does as much.

    But the Climate data is so often fabricated, and, as George points out, the policies are so obviously designed to create a super powerful, unelected and unremoveable World government, chosen by the tiniest fraction of the power elite, that one has to object, as an act of independent thought and self preservation.

    “Global Climate Change” is indistinguishable from Dialectic Materialism in many ways. First, no matter what is predicted, if the actual results differ, the theory is declared to have been right all along, based on consensus science that no fair minded person could deny. Like far fewer hurricanes and tornadoes for ten years. Second, the leaders of the movement get super powerful and super rich from making it publically funded, to their personal benefit, just as oligarchs of all stripes have done throughout history. Third, since the climate always changes, and the only measure of this so called scientific theory’s accuracy is change, it must be right, unless the laws of physics change us to a static, nonrandom Universe.

    By definition, a theory which cannot be disproved is not a scientific theory at all. And this theory is so bogus that it excludes solar variation, satellite data that cannot be jiggered, the open and obvious geoengineering taking place over our heads almost daily, and, frankly, any other data they find inconvenient. So even if carbon footprints are important, which may be true, they are being used to promote an entirely different, dishonest and dangerous agenda, just as Dialectic Materialism did and still does, only in disguise. The radioactive and other toxic waste being dumped into the air and water, Worldwide, are almost ignored, while volcanoes and wildlife crank out vast amounts of carbon dioxide, as they have always done.

    The whole thing smells very rotten to me.

    • Thank you George for your intention/attention & for this community.

      Thank you ” Anonymous on December 13, 2016 at 09:27 said:”! *The* best inclusive response to the ‘re-labeling’ of dialectic thought. Thank you for highlighting ‘thought programs’ and thereby extension ‘linguistic programs’. Additionally, much appreciative of your inclusion of geoengineering, satellite data as well as you say “other data they find inconvenient.” I also appreciate your time & intention/attention to the way you live (you too George!)i.e.: reclaiming rainwater, organic gardening & any other thoughtful win-win solutions you do.

      I am grateful to you both & to the Urban Survival community for walking the talk. From over here in “The Dirty” (yes New Jersey lol) it is heartening to know for all the ‘issues’ of our country there are still many GREAT people.

      From NJ With Love

  13. Them youngins fail to remember how terrified people were when Kennedy won way back. The idea of a strong Catholic in the White House had people believing the end of the world was nigh and the anti christ was here.

    Maybe your troller should do some history homework.


    • You heard that Gates compared Trump to Kennedy, didn’t you? Trouble ahead! Elite signaling to the masses!

  14. George, he’s a troll hardly deserving of your interest. He apparently doesn’t even know the difference between pollution and pretend anthropogenic global warming/climate change based on outmoded incorrect CO2 models. He also doesn’t understand that the energy to build and fuel those electric cars has to come from somewhere, LOL! I’m with you – it is much more eco friendly to keep/buy the 10+ year old vehicles (regardless of the gas mileage) and run them until they can’t be resurrected any more than it is to buy new vehicles when you take the manufacture and disposal into account.

    I think it is good for you to do this type of piece every so often, though, to introduce yourself and your ideas to the more reasonable of the new readers.

    • Dude-you need to wake up to American Hegemony! Do you know that the world’s #1 consumer of petroleum products is the U.S. military? If the amount of fuel that a KC-135 tanker transfers in less than 15 min. to a C-5 transport was stored as gasoline, I could run my Honda Civic for 50 YEARS! Oh yea, one more fact- 15 ocean going container ships, which run on bunker oil in international waters where there is no pollution monitoring, emit the same amount of pollution per year as all of the diesel trucks on the face of the earth. Enjoy! Thanks George for a great blog!

    • LOL! Definitely a troll. Apparently you think that repeating the same incorrect stuff is a rebuttal. A rebuttal would, at a minimum, address the following: Include the energy/pollution cost of manufacturing and disposing of the vehicle and all parts of the vehicle (amortized over the life of the vehicle) in your energy profile for each vehicle. Also include the energy/pollution cost of creating the electricity in your energy profile – not some imaginary percentages for some imaginary place that you don’t specify. Each region of the US has very different profiles for electricity production and even your imaginary percentages show at least 50% of electricity produced comes from fossil fuels (or didn’t you know that natural gas is a fossil fuel???) and each transformation/use of the energy has a loss factor built in, so the more steps there are the more inefficient the transfer of energy. So for the portion of the energy that comes from fossil fuels (whether that be gas or natural gas) it is much more efficient to burn the fossil fuel directly to move the vehicle instead of producing and distributing electricity as an intermediate step.

      P.S. Batteries are not “fuel” they are a means to store fuel, similar to the gas tank on a gas powered car. And you’re asking me to get my facts straight. LOL!

  15. Re: Unkmown toy’s name….It went Zip when it moved, and Pop when it stopped, and Whir when it stood still….I never knew just what it was, and I guess I never will.

  16. George, I too am a long time reader of your comments. I’ve enjoyed your comments on setting up your garden, your chickens, and especially your (humorous to me) efforts with goats.

    While I often agree with you on various topics, this morning’s comments about the (lack of) quality in what many American manufacturers produce for the American consumer may be overlooking a significant cause thereof which is not directly a mere “follow the money” greed cause.

    I am a little older than (Methuselah) you are, and I remember when American manufacturers made quality items for which the American consumer actively searched and made purchases based on an interrelationship of good quality to price. “Brands” were actively built on reputation.

    This arrangement changed over time as marketing to the consumer about “PRICE”, “COUPONS”, “NO DICKERING”, took the place of actual logical decision making and/or mathematics. If consumers want cheap crap, then cheap crap is what they get = caveat emptor.

    Cheap-price marketing needs to change to “true-quality vs price marketing. Japan and Korea made the change; so can America. Lexus and Toyota are good examples of a model to follow for developing a brand name that makes sales based on quality and reputation.

    In America, although not totally made in this county, Ford Trucks are currently truly too expensive plus have way too many gadgets, but my 2015 F-350 Diesel has had NO problems, and I traded-in a 1989 F-150 with no problems other than a dead a/c.

    In my opinion, American marketing practices must change in order to make possible better American manufacturing and American wages down the road.

  17. The view from abroad is not how could you elect trump, it was how could two such abysmal candidates actually end up on the ballot?

    Americans are the most misinformed, uninformed populace in the G20. Otherwise, how you could you maintain your self respect while paying taxes to support genocide, torture and continuous war against people that pose no threat to you? Or else you have to face the fact that Americans are really just a nasty group of human beings who present a nice face until somebody scratches it and what is inside comes out.

    And no matter how you defend your lifestyle, you are still part of the 5% of the population that consumes 60% of the world’s resources, and in your mind justify that, in spite of the fact that if you are 10 times wealthier than someone in another country, you did not work 10 times harder to deserve that excess.

    The question no American will ask, at least not for a few years, is how many voted for Trump, and how many voted against Clinton, and vice versa. Because those in power know, if they can get you to oppose something, they own you no matter what your political leanings. The one obligation every candidate for federal office has, is to put out information that causes a section of the populace to say, “I could never vote for somebody who _____ that.”

    That’s how it looks from Ecuador.

    • There were other presidential candidates, at least one of whom I proudly voted *for* (voting “against” is a wasted vote, IMO), but these other candidates (and their running mates) were not deemed worthy of mainstream media attention even if many of them appeared on many state ballots. New Mexico had at least eight pres/vice-pres pairs to choose from; that must have surprised a lot of folks. These alternatives fall victims to the false reasoning: “I won’t vote for one of them since they can’t win since no one will vote for them”, then those same folks complain about the choices the MSM tells them they have.

      • Debby – I could not agree more with you. I am a third party guy. I don’t even care the party. We need a third party on the stage for the debates and hopefully a fourth and fifth party too.

    • The American culture has kept many of us from seeing what is important, and kept us focused on the unimportant. The media is very much to blame for this. I hope they pay and don’t get smart enough to dupe us again. They did very well to most US cits up til now.

      Your assessments aren’t far off. I considered to say last night to the government “you could find something better to do with all your spare money than killing everyone” or something like that. I don’t know. It sounded better than that at the time. You get the idea. We continue to “print” money and drive, meanwhile we are responsible for festering/fostering Syria’s destruction, isn’t the US Govt?

      Getting rid of the establishment contender was step 1, I hope. Trump might be a bonehead or bone it up, but we have to try. It is now time to stick to him and his minions like a tick.

      I only hope that the population here has enough sense to quickly settle down and get to work watching and effecting further Hope and Change — this time for real. Not the nearly-fake Hope and Change we got last time. I think I speak for at least 50% of US when I say we are tired of fake news from DC and their media tentacles.

  18. Lately I am just wore slick with the non-stop Propaganda.
    There simply is not a safe place left to have a pleasant discussion between peers. So, I’ll just do what I have to do: “Sweetheart, can you bring me another Vodka sour please?”

  19. George, great response! I doubt your “schooling” will have much of an effect on the intended pupil, but we can always hope.

    BTW, I figured out many years ago that “global warming” (now “climate change”) was little more than hubris and political hysteria when a proponent claimed — on NPR if I remember correctly ;-) — that warming on earth would have CATASTROPHIC CONSEQUENCES FOR THE UNIVERSE. (Screaming in original.)

  20. As a liberal progressive on human rights and liberties and a conservative on fiscal matters, I did not support dt. Among many other things i found offensive, he had no plans, just a bunch of confused words. I am starting, however, to get a different take on this after hearing his pick for SOS. As the media, think tanks, etc. have been telling us for years, and as can clearly be observed, we are in the process of globalization which is seen most dramatically in our markets, aided by huge advances in tech/communication. Upon entering the Information Age (including robotics and AI),our power has become less reliant on our military strength and more dependent on trade and economic dominance. (Future wars will most likely begin and end in cyberspace which calls for an entirely different offense/defense than the geo-political boundaries that orient current strategies. In other words, military will have to rely on sophisticated technology and not guns, tanks and boots on the ground). A good part of our power/strength may actually come from our transactional deals, which will require retooling our output and our ability to monetize and sell that productivity to global markets. In that sense an Exxon exec may just have the right mindset to deal with a future where strength depends more on economics than military brawn. Will be listening closely to Tillerson’s confirmation hearings.

    • I actually like his pick gor SOS it seems like every country that we assist militarily has something that industry wants. My thought is having someone with good relations with countries and a good negotiations will keep us from being drawn into any more conflicts

  21. the one thing that I found as a good thing in the climate exchange is the carbon sequestration program that my husband and I participated in(I would be interested in others opinions). We took inventory of our trees and were given money for the carbon sequestered. I think this kind of a program could save forests all over the world, which in my opinion could stop the sixth great mass extinction we seem to be headed for.

    • We looked into it but it was a 10-year commitment during which time, you8 essentially don’t own your own land and the money for that period didn’t even pay taxes

      • looked into it on grassland and without an exchange, it was not worth the effort and I viewed the calculations for what
        i captured because of flood irrigation very low as compared with what actually happened.

  22. I had one of the toys you are describing and I think it was called a ‘Wiggleby’. Loved it, too. Similar to petting a cat — minus the teeth and claws. ;)

  23. “Jon’s” of the world, listen! Drop the belief systems and see things for what they are. Your continual use of media rhetoric marks you as someone who THINKS he\she is thinking for him\herself, but is just spewing the the words you’ve been conditioned to spew as one trapped into a belief system (brainwashed if you want to forego the subtleties?). Think about what it means to think for yourself. No media is the final word, George’s included. UrbanSurvival only presents a view and one that is not very polarized as your belief system’s “alt right” and “alt left” views, or whatever the polarizing terms the media is creating these days.

    Belief systems exist to divide groups to one side or the other of (*choose topic*). By being a person so compartmentalized into these belief systems, the media is a tool that can further divide populations based on these belief systems by “reporting” in a controlled way. We as a population will never be a able to come together if we are so polarized in these manipulated belief systems. If you want a few examples: democrat\republican, religion-x\religion-y, sport team A\sport team B, abortion\pro life, racial group A\racial group b, gun support\anti guns, vaxinater\anti vaxer, etc…. just watch the news and see which buttons are being pushed. This is basic divide and conquer. Don’t fall into the trap. The view is much better and clearer from outside these boxes we allow ourselves to be put into.

  24. George I know you enjoy “edjumacating” but in this case it would appear you were whizzing into a headwind. Dbags like that dude are a waste of your precious time.

    • never a waste of time – and do see his fine response o’nite. While he didn’t admit to newer cars than us, he has twice as many homes which I would suggests is akin to larger carbon hoofprint. Still he’s an honorable fellow and we’re pleased to count him as a former reader…

  25. George, well said I am sick and tired of the “scientific community” trying to shake down the world using global change. These are the same guys that predicted “global cooling in the 70’s. In fact, the first Earth Day rant was global cooling. Al Gore is making a fortune preaching climate change and collecting carbon credits. Unfortunately most believers in climate change never look at true facts, they only listen to the bleeding hearts who are worried about polar bears.

  26. Jon, you are pretty arrogant.

    on pollution, it is a cost of production that needs internalized cost wise. by the way George never said there were not consequences of pollution, just that it was not climate change, which did so dramatically in the little ice age with cooling and warming later.

    Trump is less than desirable, but is not Hilarity, who helped cause regime change in libya and syria. go read up on Tulsi Gabbard’s thoughts on foreign policy for the last 16+ years of overthrowing governments. Democrat congresswoman from Hawaii.

    On technology and making versus assembling… we can not continue to carry near half trillion trade deficits forever, that is George’s point but you are too obtuse to realize it.

    Technology is supplanting labor, and if you actually followed and understood before regurgitating poop as does Trump, the you would understand that his point here is that the tax code favors capital over humans and the tax code ought to change. I can employ one person and a back to quickly dig a ditch or utilize a shovel over a much longer period of time. doing so with labor has much larger tax consequences versus the depreciation write off of technology.

    The lesson really is that the tax code was written in a different era, that needs revisited as it unfairly hurts those without capital in favor of those with it to automate.

    By the way the technological chafes you speak of are what George speaks of that helped solidify the great depression.

  27. The ‘Trump is stupid’ meme? Billionaires don’t become billionaires if they’re stupid. They might be a lot of other things but stupid isn’t one of them. ;)

  28. Jon.. You know of course, that you have dangled your foot over the side of your skiff while chumming for Great Whites near the “great barrier reef” of Ure Highness and his court of minions!
    Even as you so passionately, and hopefully accurately– articulate your passionate personal viewpoints about the state of the state, you have lost before your last syllable was typed.
    The Ure Kingdom does not well tolerate that which offends either the king himself, nor those who bow down to his ” All Knowingness”!
    A certain reverence must be accorded to that which has built the Ure Kingdom, and therein lies the truth behind the strength of it’s everlasting existing (well circa 1997-2016 existing anyways).
    The reverence would of course start with the phenomenal amount of work Ure Highness spends surfing, sorting, digesting, and finally regurgitating– the huge chunks of data captured via his, I am quite sure, home built pirate dish and receiver/decoder, located deep in the backwoods of East texas.
    The Ure Kingdom minions, have been allowed to receive rations tasting of tremendous amount of diversified data, catering to– well, what will SELL, at any particular season of world news at Ten.
    As minions go, those of the kingdom are not that much different from the Zillions of other minions, that frequent the Millions of other kingdoms.
    The Ure minion’s reality have been satisfied by those rations from the caldron of captured data bits, flavored with just enough spice and stirred with the Showman’s ability to show them more than the gruel those rations truly are.

  29. I hear Ben & Jerry have a new ice cream flavor coming out. It’s called IM Peach Mint. Lol Trump will be out fast enough, if the Electors don’t get him first. Did you dream about his trial yet?

  30. I thought your rebuttal was very well done. I just got through reading “SJWs Always Lie – Taking Down the Thought Police” by Vox Day(I recommend) and he talked about different types of thought. Rhetoric and dielectric thought. Rhetoric seems to be the line the fellow was following and there’s no way possible to convince a person who thinks this way with facts. The Alt-Right to me, and as stated by many who use the label for themselves, is a reality based political system and can not be accurately considered right or left. My opinion is the Left has become delusional and refuses to square their positions with reality. They have become all rhetorical. Thought is based on slogans on how things should be other than that which is true or what is feasible presently. This explains their allergy to the alt-right as they refuse to consider all they want can not be done.

  31. They are selling the tesla power wall now…now im jealous.. I want a couple.. The only thing they had when I started was absolyte

  32. George I am really enjoying all the diverse opinions you are stirring up from your readers. Everyone remember: There is no 100% right way.

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