Special: John Kerry, Iran, and Obama’s Deep State

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Should former SecState John Kerry be indicted for violation of the Logan Act?

Kerry has in recent months, according to this Boston Globe Story, been holding talks with Iranian leaders.  Specifically, alleges the Globe “He sat down at the United Nations with Foreign Minister Javad Zarif to discuss ways of preserving the pact limiting Iran’s nuclear weapons program.”  Kerry declined comment on the report, according to the Globe.

While to average sheeple, it would seem on the surface that having a former secretary of state lobbying for something would be reasonable, it’s not.   Kerry’s meetings reveal how the Obama Deep State is trying to continue Obama-Clinton-Kerry era foreign policies after leaving office.  It’s also likely against the law under the Logan Act.

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What is the Logan Act?  Essentially, it is a law designed to keep private citizens from messing around  in foreign policy.

While it’s true that John Kerry is a former SecState, because the U.S. does not confer ‘titles of nobility,’ when Kerry left office January 17, 2017, he became – from a legal standpoint – just another citizen with the same rights as you and me.

That’s where he may have, in our view, run afoul of the Logan Act which says:

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).

What’s more, in explaining the Logan Act, Wikipedia adds a very clear distillation of who could have authorized Kerry’s conversations about Iranian nukes:

Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution includes the ‘Treaty Clause,’ which empowers the President of the United States to propose and chiefly negotiate agreements, which must be confirmed by the Senate, between the United States and other countries, which become treaties between the United States and other countries after the advice and consent of a supermajority of the United States Senate.

[The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur…

In United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp., 299 U.S. 304 (1936), Justice Sutherland, writing for the Court, observed,

“[T]he President alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation. He makes treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate; but he alone negotiates. Into the field of negotiation the Senate cannot intrude; and Congress itself is powerless to invade it. As Marshall said in his great argument of March 7, 1800, in the House of Representatives, ‘The President is the sole organ of the nation in its external relations, and its sole representative with foreign nations.’

Thus, since the President alone has the power in foreign relations, and absent any authorization from the Trump administration, ANY contacts made by former Secretaries of State (which would also cover Hillary Clinton, too, for example), would also appear to run afoul the Logan Act.

As we see it, this is a key Constitutional breach by the self-righteous  former Obama administration leadership, which doesn’t even now recognize that the American People voted for a different team to run things.  They’ve been trying to thwart Trump at every turn, and now this!

While Kerry (and Obama) would no doubt argue for Iran, absent a specific delegation from Trump to Kerry to speak on behalf of the US, seems to  a fair subject warranting an investigation  by a  Special Prosecutor.

As it happens, I happen to know of one who isn’t doing much of anything productive…other then also sniping at Trump…, who might be  reassigned to something where there’s what appears to be a ‘smoking gun’ of obstruction.

Obama et al left office a year ago January.  Now, it turns out, democrats – like John Kerry – appear to be continuing efforts with their unelected Deep State –  to run America.

That, my friend, is not how elections are supposed to work. And as should be obvious by now, it’s not how the 2016 election turned out.

Don’t hold your breath, though.  The left-leaning mass media will no doubt paper this over, although we think the Logan question is very legit.

28 thoughts on “Special: John Kerry, Iran, and Obama’s Deep State”

  1. To get away from the stress of the world for a minute & relax, maybe this will help.

    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY. “If Germany hadn’t started WW 1 & WW 2, what would the world be like today?” Would there have been the Roaring 20’s. Would we still be in a depression. Would we have the internet & all the tech that followed. Would there be an Israel. Would we have had the Cold War with Russia. Would The Korean War, Vietnam War, & Terrorism Wars happened. Would there be a Hell’s Angels motorcycle club. Would Germany be the tech leader of the world if they put all there resourses into science & business instead of war & pulled the world out of the depression. Would we need President Trump to save this country from itself. Would I be able to purchase & use Elvis stamps from USPS.com. Would we be better off or would other nightmares have been devised.

    • ‘What If’ is a favorite past time of people fond of history.

      As to one of your queries, Germany was a world leader in science pre-WWI and presumably would have continued in that pursuit. Science ‘exists’ independent of history; physical facts are often influenced (whether impeded or pushed) by history, but eventually will be revealed as ‘Life’ is studied.

    • Hmm..interesting..weren’t the puppeteers playing both sides back then to. They have power ties in every country.why go through the process of elections. Or play world leaders as if they are mumbling idiots in an attempt to set the world on a collision course.
      Why do we have politicians when everything is controlled and manipulated by the puppeteers.
      I personally think its a game for them.
      At the coffeehouse yesterday a couple puppeteers were being discussed when someone asked my opinion. I said I think its sibling rivalry. One pushes left one pushes right..then they switch. Many of the think tanks are controlled by them.

  2. Laws are only for the little people. There will be no consequences for His Eminence.

  3. I’d at least like to see some consistency and an end to republican hypocrisy.

    I’m bothered by what I’m reading about Kerry and the Iran deal. We only have one government at a time.

    What else bothers me though is that the folks screaming for Kerry to be pilloried are the same ones who were rallying against the Logan Act being used against Team Trump. It wasn’t that long ago we heard republicans complaining that no one has ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act so it should not now be used against Team Trump.

    That’s why republican hypocrisy makes republicans the gravest danger that the US faces.

  4. The LAWS of this country are NEVER followed by those that write them.

    Being ‘above the law’ is a DC ‘SWAMP’ perk…as we have seen for many years, by BOTH political parties…and their minions….the STATE department needs to be SHUT DOWN and ALL of its employees given lie detector test as to what they have done to further the ‘deep state’ agenda….an….then INDICTED on their answers…and then the FBI and DOJ..next in line…imho

  5. ECS–
    You need to go back one more step;
    What if the US had not intervened in World War I, and Germany had won that war?

    Europe would have been controlled by the German Empire, a powerful union that would have kept the Soviet Union contained, possibly eventually going to war with it and defeating it.

    There might not have been a ‘Third Reich,’ and Adolf Hitler might have been a bad landscape painter in Vienna. No World War 2 (except between the German Empire and Soviet Union), No Pearl Harbor, no Holocaust and yes, maybe no Israel–which would take a lot of the conflict out of the Middle East– No Atomic Bomb or destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    And today, Germany would control Western Europe–But of course, that is exactly what they are doing now.

    No my friends, we really blew it by getting involved in World War I. Should have kept our noses out of a regional conflict half-way round the globe.

    Speaking of which, I wonder what people will be saying about our involvement in Korea and Syria 100 years from now?

    • “No my friends, we really blew it by getting involved in World War I. Should have kept our noses out of a regional conflict half-way round the globe.” This applies again, and again, and I was NEVER asked. ;-)

    • Aibo – Good points except the Atomic Bomb would have been developed by the Germans & they would have used it to defeat Russia & then attack the USA before we could develop our own atomic bomb. Also, Japan would be free to take China & Hawaii.

  6. One must ask oneself: Which nation state most wants regime change in Syria and Iran? Just as the same nation state wanted regime change in Iraq and Libya? Yes, that state that Trump, so misguidedly IMHO, agreed with to move the US embassy.

    If we could rid ourselves of dual-citizens and the AIPAC lobby in DC, that would go a long way towards cleaning the swamp, and lowering the cost of maintaining the largest military in the world, and perhaps spreading some of the wealth among our citizenry.

    Of course, that won’t happen, because it is a topic never broached in western CIA controlled MSM, so it seldom enters the mind.

    As for Kerry’s not so secret meetings, perhaps once out of DC, he’s not quite so burdened by the heavy hand referenced above.

    Just some thoughts.

    • Lois, I always wondered in 2000, how and why Lieberman was Gore’s choice. When I learned about PNAC, shortly after 911, it made me think if Gore had won, Lieberman was in place to ensure PNAC goals were going to be launched one way or another. Kind of the way Cheney influenced GWB. Nearly 20 years later were still in unwinnable, but very profitable wars and probably real close to something happening in the Iran part of the plan. What a mess and the MSM is in place to bring us along.

    • We know, we know, but our countries are such good friends, they play together and they go to war together, and even though we are the older brother, we are supposed to send our children to protect this younger BIG baby bully with the billions and hidden nuclear program causing havoc around the world. “Anything For You.” Is our theme song!

  7. Should Trump also be investigated for hiring Israeli intelligence spies to dig up dirt on the cabinet members who helped broker the Iranian deal? Or, should we remain focused on Kerry’s speaking out of line simply because he is a Democrat? Should we scrub any UNAmerican activities by Trump just because he’s a flag-waving Republican? While concentrating on Kerry, should we also ignore the likely (unthinkable) ramifications of Trump’s destruction of the treaty, which appears to be at the behest of Israel? Is everything that rootin’ tootin’ Trump does praise-worthy because he’s a Republican? Are we that deeply entrenched in the Democrat/Republican mindset we can no longer see the forest for the trees?
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/05/trump-team-hired-spy-firm-dirty-ops-iran-nuclear-deal
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-04/un-secretary-general-says-scrapping-iran-deal-could-lead-world-war-iii
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu5bKzYKoVY

    • Trump did not use (far as we know) HIS opposition research to defraud the FISA court. Focus on Obama, Clinton, and Kerry for undermining America’s leadership – elected by the People

  8. “by them” are who? I’ve read the reports of the FED (in our public library!!) around the WW1+2 times, and concluded that both events were impossible w/o proper financing. THINK!

  9. If my guess is right, Ol’George the Wizard with the crystal ball calls it- over and over again.
    “Follow the money”
    Who profits from all of this and why take the risk unless one has ‘assurances’ that the insurance policy is in place?
    Sounds like the Monopoly Board and Mr Monopoly (J P Morgan) taking a swing at controlling the world.
    Who would that be?
    Soros?
    Rothschilds?
    Black Pope?
    ETs?
    A.I.?
    All or none of them?
    I’d say that uranium isn’t just for weapons and power, its about the ratline money.
    Let’s see- how many C-130 planes does it take to drop $150 billion in cash….do the math and follow that Yellow Brick road.
    Tinman, Strawman, Toto, Wicked Witch, all the players are there- in the shadows.

  10. George
    While on the subject, do the leaked DCN emails show communication between the DCN, Clinton Campaign, and the DOJ, FBI, DOS, and Obama and Obama white house?
    Is this collusion or coordination?
    If so, does this show,by Stronzc and Page at least, a Hatch Act violation?
    They were on government time, computers, and cell phones.
    Big Al

    • Al, they gotta get you on their “Obamanistas can do no wrong” distro list…

    • No problem for Kushner if he was passing an order.
      Oh, and that being the case, Mueller’s out of luck

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