ShopTalk Sunday: Tool Slut Alert!!!

Got “3-large” laying around with no particular plans?  Something the spouse in the house doesn’t know about ?

Pal, do I have a deal for you!  I just noticed this on Amazon this week for less than $3,000 and I want one!!!

(Smallest of details:  Why isn’t clear to me, except I don’t have one now…)

I had to admit, it’s an impressive machine.  Because (I can’t speak for you, but for me) I have the hardest time in the shop cutting precision cuts.  As I tell my children (who pay scant attention, except G2)…

“There’s only a handful of shop operations.  Layout, cutting, finishing, assembly. Everyone will be weak on at least one of these skills.  I figured out (early on) that my weakness was on precision cutting.  Framing to within a 1/16th? All day long. No sweat. But figure out your weakness early enough so you have time in Life to “halve your weaknesses.”

After 70-odd years, I have made it to a 32nd for many things.  But a 128th for doing things like an inlay in wood with veneer?  Not tonight, Josephine!

Part of me loves the tech involved in the Shaper Origin.  Great concept – making the CNC a jobsite tool.  But (Shhhh…pretend I didn’t say this) “ISN’T THAT CHEATING???”

To me, there’s always been something about a craftsman’s hand work that is distinctive. It’s either the “boxy design” or the tool marks, or the finish always comes out a certain way…

But THIS?  Why, it’s an abomination to the fellow craft of shop injuries!  In fact, I hate the idea so much that if you go ahead and buy one of these and don’t like it, I’ll let you send it to me…free…a generous offer, or what?

Seriously? (Or close as we’ll get)

I happened to be scanning two books this week (refresher).  One is And Suddenly the Inventor Appeared while the other is The Innovation AlgorithmFrom Genrich Altshuller’s brilliant work on TRIZ – the Russian science of systematic invention.

When you see a new tool (like Origin Shaper) you can immediately understand the invention by realizing that it’s almost like a conventional CNC machine (material subtractive, stationary location) evolving to (material subtractive, definable location). You get to slide it around a bit.

I’m always fascinated by the applications of TRIZ to shop equipment design.  Make it bigger, smaller, higher, shorter, hotter, colder, attach it differently… there are about 40-dimensions which can be tried and tested and many times that with mixed solutions.  Much of which is in my book The Millennial’s Missing Manual because between TRIZ and an understanding that “Administrative processes rule the world” you can be inventive to phenomenal degree. Most people simply don’t take the time to organize what they are seeing or taking in.

What I personally think will be the next big breakthrough in shop tools will be the blending of both additive and subtractive tools.  Take something like this Origin Shaper, for example.  How neat would it be to have a plug-in head that could flow 3D FDM material using the same machine?

Surmagine, if you will, being able to use an Origin-like tool in one mode to cut out a complex pattern (subtractive mode, eh?) and then go over it with the alt. print head and infill the voids to make perfect inlays! That would be some kind of neat.

Gene Roddenberry had a great deal of this covered with the Replicator and the Holodeck in Star Trek.  But we’re getting very close.  Don’t know if you have tinkered around with a 3D scanner with the Zephyr photogrammetry software package (take a look over here).

If you haven’t opened your head to this stuff, the data flow in this design/replication process is not terribly complex *except for the code – I always talk like a marketing guy, lol.

  • Find an object you want to clone.
  • Place it on a rotating table.
  • Have two cameras take images as the table turns (stereo imagery).
  • Reduce the imagery to a surface model.
  • Export to .STL
  • Slice to .gcode.
  • Print on your Ender, CR-10, or whatever….

The printing of food will be coming along a similar path.  Take picture of a steak.   Photo translate to a solid object/.stl.  Print using proteins with flavors and driers in place of the cooling fans in the regular 3D print heads.  Add moisture, warm up, eat. (Barf!).

I think it’s this “getting off the stuck line” with our ideas on tools that so fascinates me.  Ever since I saw a ShopSmith Mark V that could be rigged up do most all operations in a shop.  Similarly, the Portashops come up on eBay from time to time, as well.  These were the “luggable” version of what would be the larger Shopsmith’s.  Not sure who got the “everything machine” idea first, though.

“Don’t Do This!” of the Week

Such a graceful idea…it should have worked.

I decided to expand the feed port on an electric chipper.  Thinking that with a bigger port, I would be able to shove carefully sliced carboard into it and have instant free mulch for the garden.

No.

You can see the piece I sawed off. Didn’t hurt the functionality of the chipper, with wood, which is slightly more forgiving now on crooked small limbs.  But it also tends to “spit back” more, so wearing the full-face mask is always a good idea.

But it made the lamest of efforts at actually shredding cardboard into something useful.  At one point, a 200 MPH 3×5 card sized piece of paper came flying out of the chute.  A bit of dust, but nowhere near as anxious about it.  Piss poor approach.

If you know of a good way to shred cardboard (mostly Amazon boxes with the tape and labels removed), sent it along.  I have thought about an electric leaf mulcher but don’t want to spend a hundred and a half on one if it won’t do any better.

Tried the high-powered document shredder in the office, but that was so slow it wasn’t making sense for me.  Ideas are welcome.  (If you suggest a sprayer with diesel and put it all in place and light it off, we will refer you out for counseling. Even with the 3/4 inch of rain Saturday morning in the overnight, the duff out in the woods will still support a good-sized forest fire.  With son G2 off server-farming for Bill, no one on the property has a wildland red card presently…

More rain is promised this week.  Time to gas up the riding mower sooner than later.

Ham Radio Corner

Icom 761 (#1) is awaiting the arrival of a new (*to me) display board from eBay.  I will try (and let you know) how my efforts t to save the existing one go.  But as an incase…

One of the connectors was bad so whether I can nurture this one back to health is open to debate.  The other 761 has a power supply coming. so more a mechanical assembly issue.

If you dink with electronics much, and don’t have one of those real fine wire strippers  (down to #30 AWG) take a look at these guys. Less than $7-bucks. If I can afford it, certainly you can, Big Spender!

You can see, looking at the logic board layer of the 761 (and notice the battery lower left) why with three such layers, I’m inclined to swap out boards rather than spend time additional time on component-level replacements.

Here’s just one of the soldering challenges – see the dangly wires?  (Reader Hank will laugh his ass off – we all go there sometime…) but we know for sure and certain which wires were “Marginal” when we started…

In electronics it’s always a toss-up whether it’s easier to fix something TOTALLY DEAD or something running intermittently. With the replacement display coming, I have the luxury of just waiting or pissing away time on this.

You may have had a similar experience?  Like the car with a carb/fool injection issue causing it to lose power and drop back to idle as soon as you’re merging from Ventura onto the 101 with 8-million people honking behind you at the cattle light?

Antenna Adventures

Debate in my head is deafening. Whether to put up a ZS6BKW or another Off-Center Fed Dipole.

The ZS6BKW (write up on it here) is a more balanced antenna which means that RF into the computers and audio systems in the office (*from common mode currents on feedlines) should be a lot less.

While the BKW claims some gain on 20 meters (14 MHz) the Old School says the longer and higher the wire, the better the signal.  Thus, all else equal, the 90-something to 102-foot BKW ought to perform a little less well on lower bands like 40 and 80-meters.  Because the OCFD will be 140 feet.

Balun Designs builds a Hybrid, Dual Core, 3KW Balun for the OCFD.  The hybrid balun (another article to read) is really a 4:1 current balun back-to-back with a 1:1 to reduce feedline common mode.

I may put up both or focus on the real high payoff use of time which is dropping the tower down and figuring out what lightning did to the 3-element beam.

Always something to do outdoors.  And now that the heat seems to be breaking….

Write when you get rich,

George@Ure.net (ac7x)

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43 thoughts on “ShopTalk Sunday: Tool Slut Alert!!!”

  1. Slut – a person to be considered sexually promiscuous.
    Tool Slut – a person to be considered toolishly promiscuous.
    Promiscuous – having or involving many tools..

    Okay – got all that straightened out , now on to some actionable intel/data/ideas. 1st things first, a modern definition of EVIL – google.

    How did all these peeps involved in Jan 6 rally-protest-demonstration, get set up by fumbling bumbling idiots ?

    They were all googled.

    IT IS Time to De-goggle Ure Life .

    Privacy is the name of the game – moar important than ever before.
    Solutions;
    Short version – BRAX.Me

    otherwise youse can follow link..https://www.vtforeignpolicy.com/2023/09/concerned-about-your-privacy-then-its-time-to-de-google-your-smart-phone/

    We are at War, we are being “warred on” – by RKM-WEF/WEF trained “puppets”..they are throwing the “chosen” tribe under the bus, like flak, to keep the pichforks away from their DARK, vile, lives.

    Dark is shorthand for Forfeit Soul..as they gotz no more Blood Memory, heavy no?

    A message – Earth = Prison Farm, we be the capital.

    -https://youtu.be/YcvmGbv95Go?si=Hmm1Rr13kVl4_UHj

    • how did everyone get tricked ..

      HERD mentality..
      we already have heard that there were possible instigators there from the Biden cover-up agencies…
      when it got real for me was when I seen a video of about 20 of the main characters that we all seen a thousand times on MSM network news broadcast.. going through a script.. they took the video down in minutes after it was released..
      https://youtu.be/R5Fb2CoV9cw?si=vPqkHVms7mZv0E24

      then several messages released to what appears to be congressional backed terrorist organizations of BLM and Antifa telling members to show up with Maga hats on backwards..
      a friend of my daughter’s went to a blm demonstration and a guy was offering cash for destruction and violence.
      then FOX News was chastised as evil because they showed capital security tapes where the people in the news was getting a personal tour with capital guards showing them what doors were open and which ones were locked.
      https://youtu.be/8Nsoj1-134Y?si=2rq0PlSgYIxWqABi
      .I believe the instigators used the same terrorist tactics that BLM and Antifa used to get people wishing to make a peaceful demonstration involved in destructive and violent behavior..and the same techniques a bully uses to get good people to follow them.
      just my opinion there..what was it that the director of an agency said..
      https://youtu.be/pCIj7J5wNWc?si=Oo1phzOXNzpsYnSz
      seriously does anyone still have any faith in our Gov’t employees in charge of our agencies anymore..
      from all observed activities that they have shown is the whole leadership of our agencies has more than likely been compromised.

  2. Shredding cardboard safely? I can’t imagine anything short of a hammer mill with a hard barrier between the machine and the operator. One of my dad’s last project was a creation he called Shagnasty. It was an unholy marriage of salvaged yard ag equipment components. A feed grinder mixer, silage blower, and all manner of different junk yard paraphernalia powered by a 4 lung Wisconsin engine. These were all combined and mounted on an ancient pull type combine chassis. Rube Goldberg would be proud. The feed port was big enough to drive a VW through and anything that entered came out the other end in tiny pieces and dust at Mach 2. Dad only used it a couple times before he tried to put a large limb through it that caught his overalls strap and nearly took him in with it.
    Shagnasty was decommissioned and dismantled soon afterwards. The parts found their way to several other less life threatening projects.

    Stay safe. 73

      • How the old style denim coveralls with straps became the preferred apparel of generations of men operating power equipment is beyond me.
        Some form of lanyard stop switch which can be readily reached by an individual being dragged to their certain death is a good design practice. Have considered a clip-on version for the tractor, although I doubt the drag mower blade would slow fast enough for it to make any difference. A chipper shredder might be a better application.

        • Well, we never had the discussion this summer of “beat the heat Texas-style” clothing.
          I told G2 “Kid, that’s so dumb to wear a black skydiving t-shirt and cut-offs. Elaine says a look like a pharmacist (I wish, lol_) with light color pants and two pocket white shirts. But when working outside, when the sun’s up – white is hard to beat for keeping cool.

          Here lately, been loading up on white “uv-50 fishing shirts.” When on sale, I load up on ’em.
          Around the shop in the late fall, a white cotton lab coat may seem silly, but they keep the backside and lower back warmer than most shorter coats.

          But did make a note to do a review of working man clothing for summer. Like you, no Idea where the hell suspenders-denim overalls came from. I can’t stand ’em. It just don’t make no sense to me.

        • Amen to the light colored ‘sun clothes’. People gift me black T-shirts and I promptly dispose of them. Sorry… not in the tropical sunshine!

        • Overalls came from a time before powered machinery, when keeping one’s drawers up while under physical duress was a serious matter.

          Every time I watch a “shop show” on the tube, I cringe when I see someone wearing watch, ring, necklace or bracelet, long floppy sleeves, even multiple layers… when they’re operating rotating machinery. That saw blade that’s running 180 feet per second is going to take how long to drag you in from two feet away, when it snags your (open) flannel shirt-jac?

        • Overalls came about because when men left the house to go to work at their dirty job, they wore clean, presentable clothes that they were not ashamed to be seen in public wearing. When they arrived at the job site, they slipped the overalls on OVER their good clothes (Over All) to keep the good clothes clean for their trip back home. My dad was an engineer with Southern Pacific for 30 years, and the only time I ever saw his overalls was when he brought them home to wash them. Over the years, folks just started wearing the overalls as regular clothes.
          I like them because they have enough pockets so I can keep half my tools on me, ready to work anywhere anytime.

        • OSHA would have a shit fit if they visited dads shop in his heyday. His last really big pasttime was handmade knives. His equipment was all hand made and the shop resembled Dr Frankenstein’s Laboratory. When he had everything running it was ill advised to walk around in the shop unless you knew exactly where you were going. He could build and fix anything. We built a lot of things together. I miss the hell outs of him.

  3. “Pal, do I have a deal for you! I just noticed this on Amazon this week for less than $3,000 and I want one!!!
    (Smallest of details: Why isn’t clear to me, except I don’t have one now…)”

    you will love these talented Canadians… they have a wood worker show in the wastelands every winter.. I asked why they never got one of the Rosenthal or Norm Habrum.. they said way back then it was the cost..at that time they got ten grand an hour and all expenses paid…
    as they say..who needs a tape measure lol lol
    enjoy the show these guys know their stuff.. no reason to be afraid of a router

    https://youtu.be/1QbV0jODRTM?si=dLygabWLo1dnkSCQ

  4. George,
    Did you ever buy or build the Mystery Antenna? Mine is up and doing a great job on HF and during the 13 Colonies special event over July 4th, I was even getting through on pile-up’s.

  5. That “micro cutter” thingy sounds interesting and I hope ya get one! Howeva…..if I had 3 Grand,besides what’s stashed in the beehives(?), I think I’d buy more 7.62X39. OTOH…I’m seriously researching HAM radio. I figure that if all heck breaks loose, it might be the only way to chat with my youngest son in DC! Any professional advice is welcome! Stay safe out there in TX, and I thank the Big Guy Above that we are about 50 klicks south of Cleveland! As always….Rick and Rebel the Dog

  6. “Gene Roddenberry had a great deal of this covered with the Replicator and the Holodeck in Star Trek. ”

    over thirty years ago.. I was at an electronics show.. they had a pair of goggles …put them on and you were transported to the edge of the grand canyon.. look up look down sideways the sounds the motion was seamless you were there.. the flap of the birds wings.. you were there..if someone had come up and gave you a little shove.. you would have sworn you were falling into the grand canyon.. the view master on steroids..

    fifty years ago.. in R&D they had a cube..it was the earth live hologram.. walk around the table you walked around the world..it was amazing. as a young kid it had me real interested I made as many trips as they would let me just to look at it..the storms the things all live action being sent by sat to be processed and projected..
    why there isn’t a holodeck is beyond me. I once was talking to one of the computer imagery guys about green screen and then singers that lose their ability to carry a tune now has auto tune..they can do it any time they want..and I can honestly say I walked around the earth then had coffee lol lol..

  7. Can anyone, including George, solve our dilemma?
    On most evenings, our local PBS station cuts in and out (signal lost). This only occurs with that station, channel 38, only in the evening, not every night, and the weather doesn’t seem to matter. Our other local channels, which are lower on the frequency, are not affected.
    I have had the station techs look into it and they can’t solve this.
    Can this be ham radio interference??

      • EMF
        also if you have satellite television..it could be hardware .. simple dirty low noise amplifier cone or the check switch..
        if its the check switch just give them a call.. they will replace it..
        or troubleshoot your issue..

    • https://emfspot.com/dirty-electricity-and-emf/
      https://www.amazon.com/Greenwave-Dirty-Electricity-Filters-Bedroom/dp/B01M5C90XV/ref=sr_1_5?

      it depends.. many stations are repacking their frequencies.. so a simple rescan should fix the issue..then there’s Electromagnetic frequency.. how good is your wiring..do you have dirty electric.. if that’s the issue.. then put a filter on it..A sibling of mine worked as trouble shooter for the silos.. I was bitching be sure I had issues with an AM radio station .. he explained elf interference and we filtered it and no more issues..do you have satellite television..there again it could be elf frequencies going between the satellite and the earth..
      cable..we have cable and had the same issue and it was signal strength.. putting on a signal booster.. since the we have gone streaming..then the issue was bandwidth.. we had to put in a bigger service and installed a mesh system ..
      we can log onto our internet from a block away..
      https://www.amazon.com/Greenwave-Dirty-Electricity-Filters-Bedroom/dp/B01M5C90XV/ref=sr_1_5?
      we live in a hole.. you need a signal booster for cell phone coverage..
      I hope that helps.. my guess is a rescan will take care of it.. or just get a cable box from the cable company..

    • Not likely Ham Radio interference.
      Channel 38 is in the UHF spectrum and usually not affected much by weather or solar activity, however if you are at the fringe of reception, any abnormality can cause an outage. You could try a signal amplifier or an outside antenna if you don’t already have one. Forget about those fancy “digital” antennas, it’s all hype. An old style “channelmaster” style antenna work pretty good, I get at least 75 miles on mine at 20′. You’ll want to point the “skinny” side at the station you want. This can help. https://www.channelmaster.com/pages/tv-antenna-map

    • Sounds like off-air antenna/amplifier insufficiency, if it is cutting in and out. Let me throw some fringe hardware at you:

      First, the antenna mounted preamp:
      https://www.channelmaster.com/collections/antenna-amplifiers/products/amplify-adjustable-gain-preamplifier-cm-7777hd
      Mount that up top as close to the antenna coupler box as possible. The filtering on this amp is so good, I disconnected all the other filters I had on my antenna.

      Antenna:
      https://winegard.com/hd7698p-platinum-hd-series-antenna/

      You don’t need the wide, heavy old antenna in most locations, because the low-band VHF is all but gone.

      https://kitztech.com/KT100VG.html

      If you have a long coax run from the TV antenna to the TV, then you need a second low-noise distribution amp just ahead of the tuner. This would be a no-no with the old analog TV’s, but works fine with the digital tuners.

      Last:

      https://www.amazon.com/IVIEW-3500STB-III-Converter-Recording-Learning/dp/B0947GDYN5?ref_=ast_sto_dp

      A built-in Samsung tuner may be the only thing I have tried that could pull in stations better. This is an upgrade for most TV’s. Just plug it into Ure TV’s external HDMI signal port.

      I am still using a 14 ga coax from another era. Low attenuation 75 ohm coax can be had, if you shop around and about.

      Last, you need surge protection on the incoming coax. But I am out of time for today. Good luck.

  8. George
    For very fine wire stripping I use No-Nik wire strippers. I have a pair for 28 gauge and 30 gauge for wire wrap projects. http://www.ripley-tools.com. They have 18 -36 gauge cutters.
    As far as project dreams go I recently had She Who Must Be Obeyed raid my game!
    Last week the 2006 Super Duty diesel I gave my son 7 years ago died. An oil cooler deep in the engine sprung a leak. I had told him if he was going to get rid of it give it back to me. I had plans for that carcass! Big plans, like ripping out the diesel and dropping in a 460 big block. Yeah!!!!
    SHE! Firmly put her foot down on that idea and pointed out that I neither had the money or get up and go, old old man, to get it done. Ouch!
    She was right and my son got $1500 on a trade for a 2018 Nissan Titan with under 60,000 miles on it and in cherry condition.
    SHE was of course correct and my son got a better ride to work that he could afford.
    My ego was assuaged by what my son was able to finagle.
    I still have my electronics lab that does not require any heavy work in the southern heat. One must temper his ambitions as the march of time proceedes!

  9. The Shaper is a cool tool. Near the end of the video they show inlays.

    I didn’t see the Shaper Origin offering marble/granite bits but imagine the custom table and counter top designs one could make. Takes the velvet Elvis to a new level.

  10. Dammit, G! Now I NEED a fine gauge wire stripper! Thanks for that… I guess.

    “Don’t know if you have tinkered around with a 3D scanner …”
    I was stunned by the recent dental work I had done. I lost a crown on a lower canine tooth. Replacement procedure was to use a pencil sized scanner on the area, surrounding teeth, and upper jaw teeth that mate with the crown. Processed in 3D software and trimmed in software as needed. File forwarded to a 3D CNC machine that carved a new tooth cap out of soft ceramic material. When complete, it was test fitted on me, then put in the kiln for 30 minutes to fuse it like dental enamel. Cemented in place, it was a perfect fit.

    “…balanced antenna which means that RF into the computers and audio systems in the office (*from common mode currents on feedlines) should be a lot less.”
    There’s a cure for that. FERRITE. Clip-ons or wind feed line thru a toroid. K9YC has a great pdf paper on baluns and RFI suppression.
    http://www.audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

    “…and figuring out what lightning did to the 3-element beam.”
    Lightning is easy. Look for the burned, molten spot. After blowing out beacon lights at the top of my AM radio station towers in the midwest, I had fabricated 1-inch diameter stainless steel lightning rods with pencil-sharpened tips to install and extend above the beacon housing on the tower. I had a backup set of rods made also. Every spring when the tower inspection guy came around, the SOP was to replace the lightning rods with new ones. Those old rods came back with melted tips in a scorched blue color SS from lightning strikes. When I took them back to the machine shop to be resharpened, the machinist looked in awe and asked WTF we did to them?

    And as far as board-level replacements… yeah, we all love the easy way out. Until you are working on a portable broadcast video camera where no replacement boards are available and you MUST… (Do or Die!) fix the tiniest, most inaccessible part… after you find the problem. God I love being retired from that.

    • Boy, do I hear you on that.

      My 2.4 mm header pins came in so will desolder the old board and then solder up the 10 new pins and then mount in the pcb.

      \THEN I will reflow IC-4/DP6 – and then Wed my backup part option (spare board I hope) shows up.

      Cool on the spikes! Sent your dental 3D to my dentist. May send him a link to an Ender3 on Zon…

  11. Cardboard
    This what a friend of mine does.
    He bought a six foot plastic Kiddie Pool – fills it about half way with water – he then tosses the cardboard into the pool – tape and labels removed – some of the large pieces he rips apart – once it looks full he tops it off with more water – then lets everything soak for a few days – occasionally steering it around – he then mixes the whole mess up with his powerdrill and a three foot long paint stirrer – the ones they use to mix the paint up in five gallon buckets – he keeps mixing until it turns into a thick oatmeal like slurry – then lets it set and evaporate off for a couple of days – then he shovels the mess out into his wheel barrow and dumps it onto his compost pile. – Then he mixes in dirt and compost and mixes that all up with a shovel and lets it cook until ready.
    He has some incredible compost / garden soil and a great vegetable garden.
    It’s not as labor intensive as it sounds – as it is all in stages.
    Told me that he got the idea of a YouTube gardening video.

  12. sorry, George, I just got a notice to renew my subscription. No amount was listed and I can’t remember. thanks

    • Oh, still the same $40 bucks as it has been since, gosh, 2001… (Inflation would make it nearly $80 now, but it’s all a labor of love…with the odd six-pack for my trouble, lol

  13. I should probably warn you all…

    According to my periodic E-Mail from The Vintage Tool Shoppe:

    Tool Show Season is Starting

    2nd ANNUAL TOOL GATING ~ NH
    October 7th
    6 DEALERS
    54 Danville Rd Rte 111A
    Fremont NH
    If you missed last year don’t miss this one.
    It will be bigger and better.
    Shed & Tool Room will be open too

    https://thevintagetoolshoppe.com

    I guess it’s only reasonable that our host’s sluttiness should shine through, now.

    ‘Makes me wonder if people who work with their hands get “Tool show tireds” when fall rolls around…

  14. George, while looking for J-B’s water-based epoxy putty, I stumbled across this:

    J-B Weld Tabletop Epoxy Resin, 1 Gallon Kit, Cures Clear, Fast Cure Time, Minimal Bubbling, Scratch & Water Resistant

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XF92PKY

    ‘Figured it might be a product to file away for future projects…

  15. In keeping with the Tool Talk theme, I just ordered another plasma cutter. The first one crapped out the second day I had it and had to be sent back. I wanted a replacement, but refund was the only option. They’ve come out with 5 more generations of that machine since then, so I’m getting a gen 7 that I HOPE all the kinks have been worked out of.

  16. George,
    Have you tried an xbox Kinect or an Oculus VR headset? I had some degree of success using both and then using Meshroom to render a 3d model. Just a thought.
    KC3HGM

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