“Work expands to fill the time available” has been getting another ranch-sized proof around here this weekend.
Next weekend, ham radio bugs (and keyers – that’s a joke, get it?) head out into the wilds for the ARRL;s Field Day 2026. Contest Rules here, said old George, AC7X, electron boss extraordinaire. “With so many hams lining up tools for FD26, it would be in keeping with the spirit of things to sorwt out my electronics tools.
That’s how this weekend’s “innocent starting point” landed on tool organization. I wanted to specialize several toolboxes for electronics better. I should have noticed the quicksand when the thought passed by…
The shop already has multiple roll-arounds, each with a reasonably well-defined mission. Green are the general shop-work rollers. Electric blue, naturally, is electrical: solar connectors, pigtails, wire, Alexa-controlled switches, 4/0 cable cutters, and the other specialized goodies that accumulate whenever electrons are involved.
Then there are three black boxes. Or perhaps five. Organization becomes somewhat theoretical at this level.
Drawers Tools Call “Home”
One black box roller drawer contains jewelry-making supplies in case Elaine gets back into that play mode. If you need a ring-sizer or leatherwork tooling, you’ll find it here.
Beneath it is a welding drawer containing the smaller consumables: .030- and .035-inch tips, plasma-cutter guides, and related pieces too small to deserve their own cart.
Another drawer is “Sharps.” That is where the picks, pulls, scrapers, specialty knives, and other implements of precise destruction live. Need a 12-inch razor scraper to remove an expired vehicle inspection sticker? Sharps knows where it is.
Above the main bench is a tool rail with air and plenty of electrical outlets. Elsewhere is the charger-and-battery bench because, despite all my lectures about standardization, there appears to be no known way to operate a well-stocked shop without ten different battery chargers.
Here’s how this “organizational indexing nightmare” plays out here.
You begin by shopping the sales (Amazon Tool Slut Days in coming next week!).
Then you try to get all the tools charged and ready so you can grab and go on a moment’s notice.
But, if you’re sharp-eyed, you’ll notice there is something missing in the picture.
That would be the Charger Bench.
This was set up a long time ago because I needed to keep the (*GD) chargers away from the table saw, jointer, handsaw and so forth.
Plus, you don’t want them hogging the precious tiny clear horizontal postage stamp working bench. Oh, no, that would never do.
So the “Charger Bench” came along. And it is a great fit with my “If you put it in your path and therefore make it part of your routine, you can do a quick temp check and put batteries on or off as needed.
Sometimes Organization Backfires
Tools one place, chargers adjacent – that part makes sense. But here’s an example of how this kind of tool organization blows up. See, I started with a simple concept “The Sharps Drawer.”
The first (original) “Sparps” drawer is still in use.
If you need their 12 inch handle razor scraper for the emissions sticker change in the impossible-to-reach windshield area, look here. Or, next drawer down – “Sharps 2.” In this one, I noticed a 10 inch gas weed whacker brush blade. So that led to “Sharps 3” opening in a different roll-around…
And once that happened – and wobble-dado blade moved in, then the better quality dado set wanted to be nearby. So it took up residence in “Sharps 4” because 3 wasn’t deep enough.
See where this is going? Every tool brings with it this incredibly understated tool location and indexing issue. Drill bits are the same problem: Do you leave all the drill bits at the Drill Press Station, or do you keep another tool box of drills at the main bench? Maddening…seriously. Then,l where do you put the Drill Doctor to sharpen them all? Dang!
AI Helps Only Somewhat
Now back to the ham radio tool kits problem.
My original plan sounded simple. I would give the AI stack the contents lists from several good electronics toolkits, including a high-end Jensen winged case I bought empty on eBay. The machines would sort the tools into two logical kits.
The Jensen would become the electronics measuring, troubleshooting, and alignment kit. A second case would become the fabrication kit: portable enough to take outside for antenna construction and other light fabrication work, but stopping well short of the heavy welding carts.
Simple. Logical. Almost elegant.
Then all the tools arrived.
Once they were spread out, it became obvious that the toolkits were going to consume the workspace they were supposed to improve. That was when photographic memory finally did something useful and hauled up an old image: the smart mechanics in a transmission shop.
A good transmission shop does not carry a complete Hydra-Matic onto a delicate rebuilding bench and begin swinging tools. The mechanic first puts the heavy unit on a stout teardown bench. There it is drained, opened, and broken into manageable assemblies. Those components then move to specialized benches for inspection, measurement, adjustment, and rebuilding.
That was the missing piece.
Begin by Understanding Your Workflow
You might need more than one electronics bench – and this is where I screwed up. Seriously.
Most of my ham gear is older tube-type equipment weighing anywhere from 20 to 120 pounds. Moving a Johnson Thunderbolt linear amplifier onto a genteel electronics bench is not merely inconvenient. It means the bench is being asked to serve two physically incompatible jobs.
Old heavy iron tube-type gear with a smattering of smaller than rice surface mount (SMT) projects.
What I needed was a halfway-house bench: a heavy, stand-up, walk-around workspace where large equipment could land, be opened, cleaned, diagnosed, and broken into workable sections if needed before anything delicate began.
I kicked the problem around with my AI stack. One of them, probably my local LMS 7B model Walter, finally asked the domain question:
“Why are you mixing a solid-state and surface-mount bench with the linear-amplifier gear?”
That was the lights-coming-up moment. This really was a “Well, shit, because I have always done it this way for 77-years?” moment.
In my head, a modern two-pound DSP radio such as the Hermes Lite 2 and a roughly 120-pound Johnson Thunderbolt occupy the same domain. They are radios. Signals enter, circuits do their magic, and signals leave. My logical model follows the operating domain without caring very much at all about the size (and weight) of the box.
But the physical domain certainly cares.
So does complexity. Because if I shoehorn all the electronic tools into one area, there’s no space left to work on gear. It’s not that I’m stupid, at least exactly…
Pilots deal with something similar. Whether flying aerobatics in a Citabria or driving a Boeing 767, the underlying control domain remains pitch, roll, yaw, power, trim, and energy management. The aircraft may be vastly different, but from the pilot’s perspective much of that difference appears as a new user skin wrapped around familiar principles.
Without realizing it, I had applied the pilot’s mental model to my electronics shop. A radio was a radio, so naturally radio work belonged on the radio bench. Regardless of size, I plug in a key and get on the air – or wake up early and get on 80 meters to chat around with friends.
What the Russian TRIZ practitioner in me should have remembered is called an “Internal Contradiction.” Rebuilding a 120-pound Thunderbolt right on top of a hot-air rework station and 10-inch SMT microscope is like changing tracks on an M1A2 Abrams on the same bench where you install Swiss watch jewels and balance wheels. Everything involved may loosely qualify as machinery, but the similarity ends there.
The solution is still evolving as I write this. A sturdy walk-around bench in the shop will become the radio intake and teardown station. It will have the hand tools and basic test equipment needed to troubleshoot signals through 30 MHz.
It does not (“should” not) need serious component-identification horsepower, a hot-air soldering station, an SMT microscope, or every feature of the main dual-trace scope. We can leave the SMT tweezers.
Those belong at the precision electronics bench, where smaller assemblies can be measured, repaired, aligned, and returned to service without sharing elbow room with a hundred-pound amplifier cabinet.
Oddly enough, I had already begun making this distinction elsewhere without recognizing the larger rule. (Male Pattern Stupidity?) I can’t be sure, but… I moved a borescope and a seven-inch LCD magnifier on an adjustable arm to the hobby bench. That is where the Hoppe’s No. 9 lives for gun cleaning and trigger work.
G2 prefers a lighter trigger pull than I do. Father-and-son differences deserve to be celebrated, especially on Father’s Day. The correct workspace accommodates the user as well as the job. I didn’t want to have the Glock punches lost in a radio repair and resto project.
The larger reason for today’s tool ramble is not to tell you how many benches or toolboxes you need. It is to suggest a better way to decide.
If you’re packing for Field Day, imagine what could go wrong. Extra drone batteries for lifting wire antennas, coax cable repairs, crimper for power cables… duct tape and electrical tape. Wire strippers, knife or two. Beer (I mean let’s be practical, right?).
The New Org Design Plan goes like this: Mentally replay two or three serious projects you have completed. Where did the job actually land? What had to be lifted, clamped, cleaned, measured, heated, disassembled, or protected? Which tools were used together? Which tools merely occupied space because they belonged to the same broad subject?
Then design the workspace around the physical sequence of the work, not around the name of the hobby.
That sounds obvious after someone says it. Most useful shop lessons do. Yet the real brick walls in life are often built from habits that worked perfectly in one domain and were carried, unnoticed, into another.
Sometimes you do not need another tool. (Well, I have heard that…)
You need to stop asking, “What kind of project is this?” and begin asking, “What does this project physically require me to do?”
Then suddenly, the two-pound radios (DSP intensive Hermes Lite 2) will make a lot more sense. Moves from heavy iron to good old-fashioned clicks.
Write when you get rich,
George@Ure.net ac7x
“or wake up early and get on 80 meters to chat around with friends.”
You’re welcome to jump on 3858 at 0630 (or earlier) on Sunday mornings and join the Taildragger Net. We often start the rag chew around 0600, start the net at 0630, then visit ’til around 0700.
On the topic of repairing ham gear, my AT250 antenna tuner (antique I’ve had for 36 years) died, and I’m not having much luck finding someone to fix it. I don’t have the expertise, and even if I did, parts are a problem.
I happen to have one – and its on my “things I need to get to…” list – will advise if it survives a george encounter 72 and thanks for the invite
73 (I KEEP FORGETTING INFLATION!)
New W5GI Mystery 160/10M antenna goes up 8 days from now. Hot weather moves me into the Doghouse to set up 52” space for ham station and soldering/electronics. I have to get the new Hermes Lite 2+ built.
Remember that you may be able to get more DX by putting the W5GI east-west and consider using the ladder line to a good tuner direct rather than goingd right to coax – though that works.
Alright g-Pops,
we have processed all the info, and looked at all angles to come up with a waterproof quick hit scheme to collect moar money, honey. No not crypto, not Ai, not Gold, not Palladium, nerp, WATER.
1st things 1st – da Weather – looks as though Godzilla-El-Nino is coming with a vengeance. What have we learned from previous El Ninos ? The Southern Girls gonna be having a lot moar wet t-shirt contests, Yes please, thank you. Also prolly means Uretopia Ranch septic system gonna be running thru its paces..alot.
We wonders Precious, can we store excess rainfall for future use ?, never mind I digressed.
Secondly, Godzilla-El-Nino means odds of FLooding events in and around Uretopia ranch go way up.
Did You smell it yet?
It only knocks once, Georgie my Boy.
Okay – the game plan – after cataloguing all your Tools, and setting aside all doubles/triples and quadruples For SALE! In fact Ure very best outcome would be Selling all of em.
Remember Cash only, As Is, No receipts, No returns
Relax, youse only heard part of the plan so far..jeeze take a chill pill..deep breathes, think you are RELAXING…there now, better ?
Okay here we be, 90 % of all Ure tools have been sold, just in time for “Nor- “Easter inundation of RAINS. Thats right G-Pops its gonna be a terrible flood, washing away all your Tools, ure Receipts for said Tools, Ure septic system, and the old Lexus.
Hello HomeOwners Ins – I trust you do have Insurance. Yeah I never Assume anything anymore, as I have run out of ass cheek to take a bite out of.
https://youtu.be/tV9PoWQVga0?- G, Lightfoot
Always “stealin” that hateful Witch of November, always..
Gitchee Gumee water runs 37F year ’round. Been there, dipped in it. Brrr…
Ditto. Used to dive it. That second thermal layer is an eye-opener…
Rollaway tool Chests and rolling tool boxes have been my choice for tool organization. Remember any flat surface becomes a place to pile crap. Keep in mind that most of the remote work on many ranches means traversing across uneven ground making a lot of the rolling tool boxes to have oversized wheels which usually were added aftermarket. Last count is in the shop where equipment is stored and maintained are 3 roll away chests and associated heavy duty shelving units for the overflow. For the various maintenance chores and full on construction there are 2 rolling multi level rolling tool boxes with some added features such as electrical cord storage. For work in and around the hoopty’s and the greenhouse there is a 4 level rolling tool box with most needed plumbing, pump parts, emitters and such.
When I first started to move towards the rolling tool centers I first went to the pro gear like Milwaukee but the price tag was Holy Crap so I ended up with 3 Bauer units from Harbor Freight for the price of a small Milwaukee and these have been very sturdy and have been easily modded to my needs.
Is there an organization for fellow tool sluts. If not how about ATSA. Amalgamated Tool Sluts of America. I nominate George for Present and CEO.
Stay safe. 73
“A sturdy walk-around bench in the shop will become the radio intake and teardown station.”
Walking thru the orange box store yesterday for some small items, I walked past these marvelous roll-arounds with a workbench top and enough drawers to contain tools for a complete automotive tear-down. My first thought was that I wished I had a separate shop building like George where I could use such a thing… or several of them. Count your blessings of space! That old adage should be “Tools and workbenches will expand to fill the available space…. and then some”. (Said the guy with the closet workbench)
Two by fours, ground screws, and on a long weekend when the building dept (if you have one, we don’t) is on vacation. ETalk to NMMike about R-panel roofing…LOOB on low cost design…we got this…
Ground screws don’t work well on lava plate with an inch of grass atop. :-(
details details – buy super glue
Hank : “… I wished I had a separate shop building like George …”
Sure. My overlarge barn is chock full of maximus possible.
Now, with boats out the space is ginormous.
Danger zone Will Robinson.
Any space can be enough.
Or, have less?
Nah.
~ E ~
Organization becomes somewhat theoretical at this level.
MO Jim : “… I nominate George for Present …”
I rise to 2nd George as Present.
Always, Egor ~ /) ~~
and a rudder thing (me having been MIA due to work load), this from the Raven is important reading:
Betting Against Ourselves: The Casino-ization Of America
by QTR (quote the Raven)
“… When enough leverage accumulates inside a system, personal mistakes become market problems. Speculation funded by borrowed money creates fragility. Fragility creates forced selling. Forced selling creates liquidity events. Liquidity events create contagion. The history of financial markets is filled with examples of this dynamic.
And as savings dwindles, margin debt as a percentage of GDP is consistently rising. In other words, we’re taking more risk. Gambling more. Investing less. …”
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/betting-against-ourselves-casinoization-american
I could have, still could, write this (irt : stepping aside).
Stay small people, if playing levered games.
Got a chair when muzak stops?
Meanwhile, ATL, we wait hoping to talk to E2.
Early there though not here.
Boy is busy …
Egor [cracks another Stout]
~ /) /) ~~ (\ ~~~
“Boy is busy …”
Same dealio over heres on the eastside..
Daughter over here in SE Pennsyltucky was very recently describing all the abuse her new “chunky monkey” is putting her thru. All the New Baby wants to do is, Eat, Eat, Sleep, Poop, Eat, Eat, Poop..
Pretty standard stuff, now add in Father works from Home, and there is a major Renovation Project going on at their House. Basement is being waterproofed and re-finished into ofc space and play room area.
So lots of LOUD Noises all day. So loud in fact downstairs in basement, where the Kitty litter box is located, that the werewolf looking maine coon Cat took her morning constitutional upstairs inside the clothes Dryer.
So unbeknownst to Momma, she ran a load of my GrandDaughters wet clothes thru said Dryer. Talk about a baked on, caked on mess..
Holy Cat Shit Batman!
I dont like Cats as a general rule, but I do respect and value them for their “Guardians of Thin Places” work they do, without being asked. Tis why “Zelda” and Grandpa have such a great relationship…that and I always bring her a paper lunch bag full of fresh cut Catmint/Catnip when I visit house.
Pussycat song -https://youtu.be/Bjk7qTBrFVA?
Middle east view
1) vance pope. Give peace a chance. Congress concurs. Last in
2) trump isreali pm. Snuff fire befroe raging infernal
3) oil gone. Longer wait less economy
4) east wins? No it is a Mexican standoff. British win germany russia gone. Usa no money
Down here we have a thought project going to figure out how to get a quarter million AUD worth of carbon spars from Melbourne to our little town about four hours north of Brisbane. Mast is 16M, park avenue boom is 8M, sprit and diamonds can ride along. Need a specialized trucking outfit, big expense and the boat needs another eight months or so until the rig gets in. Also, the place where it was made is for sale and soon the storage will not be allowed. Gotta move. Where to put this thing of beauty? How to get it from wherever in our locale it lives until stepping?
Not heavy. Mast is only 250kg. The builder lives 3K from the boatyard.
I say get ten strong guys and carry the thing down the road. Seems a perfectly Aussie thing to do?
No shortage of fun stuff going on down here.
Stiks
Super el nino of 4 degrees c due pct 2026 by one model. Storms violent
Gavin Newsom’s new software tax goes way beyond corporate softwares, California Democrats are going to tax everything
They expect to make over $2 billion per year from this new tax, “They now define pre-written software as everything from Microsoft Office, Gmail accounts, Android operating systems — it has a computer, it has pre-written software. California is now going to tax that. Wow”
I put together a list to give you an idea of how far this goes
• Microsoft Office / 365 subscriptions
• Gmail / Google Workspace
• Slack
• Workday
• QuickBooks / Intuit products
• Adobe Creative Cloud / Acrobat
• Android operating system licenses (in applicable contexts)
• Cloud-based CRM/ERP systems
• Accounting/financial software (SaaS versions)
• Project management tools (e.g., Asana, Monday. com)
• Antivirus/security software (digital downloads/subscriptions)
• Productivity suites (e.g., Zoom, Teams)
• Database software (pre-written)
• Graphic design/photo editing tools (cloud)
• Operating system access/subscriptions (where pre-written)
• Enterprise software platforms
• HR/payroll SaaS tools
• Marketing automation software
• Collaboration/communication apps
• Many mobile/desktop apps sold digitally
So basically everything
https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2068935546324635783?s=20
Many other States already have Saas:
https://www.numeral.com/blog/sales-tax-on-saas
UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer Expected To Resign On Monday
Keir Starmer’s premiership appears to have entered its final act. Just over a week after Andy Burnham stormed back into Parliament with a crushing by-election win, the Prime Minister is – according to senior Labour figures cited by The Observer – preparing to set out a timetable for his own departure, with a “clear statement” possible as early as Monday.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/uk-prime-minister-keir-starmer-expected-resign-monday-report
Perhaps the first step for the Brits toward locating their long lost testicles…
Those 2 testicles are marked JE, for Jeffrey Epstein, Trump’s old pal…
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/20/uk/keir-starmer-mandelson-epstein-vetting-intl
‘Yet the furor over Starmer’s decision to appoint Peter Mandelson – whose close ties to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein would be detailed in files released by the US Department of Justice – as Britain’s ambassador to the United States is once again threatening to engulf his premiership.
On Monday, Starmer admitted to parliament that he shouldn’t have appointed Mandelson to the plum diplomatic role, from which he was sacked after seven months.’
Trump and Epstein, rape of a 13-15 yr old:
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/05/donald-trump-epstein-files-allegations-00816123
‘the woman, whose name is redacted, alleges that when she was between 13 and 15 years old, Epstein took her to either New York or New Jersey, where, “in a very tall building with huge rooms,” he introduced her to Trump.’
Trump then unzipped his pants and put her head “down to his penis,” she recalled in the interview. She said she “bit the shit out of it.” In response, she said he pulled her hair and punched her on the side of her head.’
Bulletin Board
Iran Got the Jackpot. The Only Catch? They Have to Stop Being Iran to Collect It.
The Deep State Didn’t Investigate the Lab Leak … It Built a Protective Cocoon Around Fauci
Trump Crippled Iran Without Giving Them Another Iraq … So The Experts Moved The Goalposts And Called It Defeat
Britain’s Elites Didn’t Just Cover Up the Gangs … They Sacrificed Their Daughters to Protect the Migration Lie
More at: https://floppingaces.net
Ray,
What the UK has allowed to happen to over 250,000 little girls and preteens by Muslims is beyond unconscionable. It is an outrage. And, to permit special privileges to the Sikhs for carrying knives is absurd. The hands of the police are tied, and, strangely enough, are not allowed to carry weapons. Anyone is accused of being racist if they protest and are arrested if they try to rescue the girls. Rape, attempted murder, and murder itself are crimes punishable by death or certainly by incarceration. There should be absolutely no special privileges given to anyone for those crimes.
You are both drunk on the Kool Aid of Rhetorical Extrapolation:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/fact-check-figure-250-000-033107912.html
‘The 250,000 figure, according to page 12 of The Rape Gang Inquiry Report, is not based on government or law enforcement data but, instead, on a rhetorical question (archived here) posed in the House of Lords by Lord Malcolm Pearson of Rannoch on Oct. 22, 2018.
Musk amplifies the claim
Elon Musk, majority owner of X, shared and amplified the social media claim, which has been viewed millions of times. Musk’s repost (archived here), in which he added the line, “Those who knew must go to prison for a long time,” appears below’
Sober up and do some fact checking before spreading unsubstantiated fear mongering,
159 page report on Rotherham:
https://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/279/independent-inquiry-into-child-sexual-exploitation-in-rotherham#page=7
A Supreme Court Justice and our current President have both committed rape:
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/sexual-assault-remains-dramatically-underreported
‘When Dr. Christine Blasey Ford came forward with sexual assault allegations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh, one of the first questions to emerge from the judge’s defenders was: If she was sexually assaulted 36 years ago, why not report it then? ‘
Why not the same concern about rape in the U.S.?
https://rainn.org/get-informed/facts-statistics-the-scope-of-the-problem/
443K age 12+ experience sexual violence in the U.S. every year, 1 in 6 women and 1 in 33 men experience rape or attempted rape in U.S.
C, or whatever that stands for,
I do have concerns for the rape and murder victims in the US. I was informed by a courageous person, who is part of a human trafficking rescue team, that cities located at two major crossroads, like Denver and Albuquerque, have a significant presence of human and drug trafficking. The drug cartels have tremendous amounts of money that is used for all kinds of bribes given to governing officials. I was also told that human trafficking is the biggest business in the world that makes the most money.
The problem in the UK is that no one is allowed by law to carry a weapon, not even the police. In the US, many states allow for concealed carry, while some permit open carry.
Crime around the world poses a threat to human existence. Some people in power think in terms of short term monetary gains and do not care about the consequences generated. If you look deep enough down the rabbit hole, what you might see is truly horrifying.
Former Trump Pastor, Robt Morris, only did 6 mos (out of a 10 yr sentence) for molesting a 12 yr old (Jeffrey’s Law – be Trump’s BFF and get your sentenced shortened lol?):
https://www.ms.now/news/former-trump-pastor-freed-from-prison-after-serving-6-months-for-child-sexual-abuse
In 2020, during an event at Morris’ church, Trump touted the pastor as a “great” person with a “great reputation.”
Northern Ireland politician convicted of child rapes (won’t be a Knight any longer)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/22/jeffrey-donaldson-found-guilty-of-child-sexual-offences-including
‘children’s rights groups paid tribute to the victims who made the accusations to police in 2024 and persisted with the case despite delays in the trial and denials from Donaldson, who accused the women of lying.’
“Trump Crippled Iran Without Giving Them Another Iraq … So The Experts Moved The Goalposts And Called It Defeat”
Propagandize much ?
Entire middle east thinks Iran won this most ill-advised adventure in the desert. US Carriers have been obsoleted by this cluster=F. of a war.
SO guys got spanked hard attempting to pilfer the enriched uranium, under cover of pilot rescue mission. We are surrendering and giving them back moar Billions than obumma did. Check official USN numbers on Recruitment and RETENTION regards any Personnel involved in a MED Cruise in past 2 years.
Crippled ? Is that why Donny begging for an Exit ?
presidency/gop – ability to project Power – destroyed, tRUMPS reputation – nothing left to destroy. FILTH .
Oil price shock has still not hit US economy, reserves are gone, and tank bottoms are coming into view at Cushing Hub. So now they R talking up demand destruction, which you assuredly will be barking about next.
“Entire middle east thinks Iran won this most ill-advised adventure in the desert.”
They probably also think you have a functional brain…
(“If you’re packing for Field Day, imagine what could go wrong. Extra drone batteries for lifting wire antennas, “)
one of the guys at the local grain elevator bought a drone he is plan ing to use…to spray fields…just like crop dusters do.. I was picking up some weed killer and we got talking..he thinks it will be a money maker..now my question is..how big is this thing and how many gallons would it hold to spray a decent size field in the wastelands..I have a good idea how many gallons a crop duster holds and to be productive it would have to hold a similar amount…
how big are the batteries for something like that as well..its obviously not a kids toy..and way beyond my comprehension… I will get to see it though..my thought is it could hoist a pretty heavy antenna lol