My visiting friend – who flies out today – isn’t much of an astrology fan, however I am. It is one of our subtle differences over the years. I’ve seen it work – or come close – many, many times.
No, I am not into the general woo-woo type astrology, but rather its practical art.
If you want to get a real discussion going between various Christian believers, toss out concept of astrology and see what happens. Fur flyeth.
When you get deeply into biblical study, there are always multiple ways of reading scripture, not unlike there are always multiple ways of “casting the I-Ching” or technical analysis of short-term stock market prices. Cleromancy is too much work, compared to T.A.
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An important aside here: Cleromany is related to sortition which most people are totally unaware of, but semi-random choice is a key part of how democracy works, says Wikipedia’s entry:
The Athenians believed sortition to be more democratic than elections and used complex procedures with purpose-built allotment machines (kleroteria) to avoid the corrupt practices used by oligarchs to buy their way into office. According to the author Mogens Herman Hansen the citizen’s court was superior to the assembly because the allotted members swore an oath which ordinary citizens in the assembly did not and therefore the court could annul the decisions of the assembly. Both Aristotle and Herodotus (one of the earliest writers on democracy) emphasize selection by lot as a test of democracy, “The rule of the people has the fairest name of all, equality (isonomia), and does none of the things that a monarch does. The lot determines offices, power is held accountable, and deliberation is conducted in public.”[
So we see much older cultures employing semi-random means to arrive as equality and seems to me that’s worth considering given the Chinese were first-rate astrologers and have a 3-thousand year head start on the West in many areas.
But back to our track…
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In the King James bible, astrology seems to be OK, at least in Genesis 1:14:
“And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:”
Granted, this stops short of a ringing endorsementm but the lights must be there for a reason. When you read the translation done by Chris Tyreman’s group at www.thechronicleproject.org, you come up with a little different meaning for Genesis 1:14:
:” And so to declare Originators,”So to exist that to vary to continue (the moon) amid sky (of) the celestials (locators), toward the (celestials), toward the to disconnect toward between the day and between the night. And to exist being toward tides and toward congregations and toward measures and years. “
Seems to me, a more balanced way to look at things is to consider Jeremiah 10:2-3:
‘2- Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3- For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
To me, verse 2 implies that you can get through life without learning heathen ways, but if you do get into astrology, don’t get bummed out by it. Verse 3 is always cited with verse 2, but never made much sense to me.
Naturally, you will find people who cite prohibitions on witchcraft and lump astrology into the same class of thought: Micah 5:12 is often cited in anti-astrology thinking:
“And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no [more] soothsayers:”
Now, as I read this, I don’t see any mention of astrology. Witchcraft? Sure…danger in those conjuring sessions. Dark, evil, suck you into it danger of the kind that burns forever.
On the plus side, I have to remember that three wise men were “following a star” as “foretold” so there must be something going on overhead worth noticing. And, of course, there is the ancient edict “As above, so below.”
While this latter can be applied to astrology, it can also be applied to practical psychology, as well.
We could also note that there was a fair amount of “marketing competition” going on at the time the modern church was putting down roots. When I read passages such as Isaiah 47:13….
…Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from [these things] that shall come upon thee….
…what I read as marketing material,
A fine question! When you look up the English Standard Version of Isaiah, you find something rather remarkable:
You are wearied with your many counsels; let them stand forth and save you, those who divide the heavens, who gaze at the stars, who at the new moons make known what shall come upon you.
Christianity has a spotting record – at best – when making known “what shall come upon you.” The first Millennium was supposed to be it and then things kept getting pushed back from there. Any old day now? Your call, but I have plans for tomorrow. People hate it when I underscore such facts. Still, whether it’s a failed prediction of a global coastal event or End Times, I am a hard-core data guy.
I don’t know if you have done much study of The Chronicle Project work, but Chris Tyreman has a wonderful book over here on Amazon ( The Destruction of Sabbath: Tracking the History of Deception ), but if you had read it, you’d realize that Judaism and Christianity is really lunar-cycle based system. It makes sense, too.
Ergo, looking at one aspect of astrology (lunar progression) is actually at the core of the religious belief system itself.
Astrology is very popular – even today – in considering financial markets. There are few who can rival the work of my friend Arch Crawford, who has done amazing work in the area. He popularized the notion that “millionaires don’t look at astrological indicators, but billionaires do. His site, by the way, is www.crawfordperspectives.com.
I don’t read Arch regularly, but lots of us who look at the markets seriously consider a lot more data than the simple mathematical markets that get published daily. And with good reason.
For one, the full moon does impact markets in some measurable ways. The term Lunatic didn’t just show up on its own. Ask anyone who has worked for a few years about the impact of full moons on trauma cases, especially if the full moon happens to fall around when welfare and social security checks hit. It’s a solid connection.
We also see that when there are other astro events – like energy off the Sun hitting Earth from sunspots, there is some anecdotal evidence of linkage.
There are cycles to almost everything men and women do. Everything from “that time of the month” to the California real estate cycle. The Juglar, the Kuznets, the Schumpeter, the presidential, the Kondratieff, the Jubilee, and so on.
Much of ancient history was in the “time before clocks” – and if we were genuinely living a biblical life, two fascinating questions pop up. First: Would we “put in the fix” with a high degree of regularity to sidestep the “seven years of lean” (of Genesis 47:26-27)?
And secondly, would we live lives regulated by “time-keepers” at all?
Lately, I have been leaning toward the idea that the references to astrology (the few there are) were more about people “looking at time” cycles, whether in the heavens, or whatever. We will get into this morning when we look at “A Brief History of Time in Finance” which will be tomorrow’s Peoplenomics.com.com topic.
Given that the invention of clocks goes back only several hundred years, and that before that, orbits of planets were a convenient short-cut for timekeeping on a longer scale, count me as among the people who believe that astrology a) does have a place in a natural life and b) that the study of astrology (and the natural timekeepers) gives us a convenient way to open our minds to the cyclicity that naturally occurs and is mentioned as the basis for things like the Jubilee Year and so forth.
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Didn’t mean to get way off-base here, we a few notes on the importance of astrology (as a thinking tool to consider cyclical relationships) popped out of reading an email from our Consulting Astrologer:
“George, thought I’d pass along a small piece of information for your visitor and boyhood pal since you mentioned that he is involved with energy medicine.
There is a new book that was published in late fall, 2015 that could possibly shake up the whole field of medicine [something those of us who work in alternative forms of healing will applaud.] It is already #1 in three different categories on Amazon, including “Mental and Spiritual Healing.”
The title is…
The author also has a website www.medicalmedium.com.
Besides being an Astrologer and more, I studied and worked for over 40 years with alternative forms of healing, including the method imparted to me intuitively by my guides, involving healing through transmuting the DNA. [which reversed AIDS, Leukemia, and even 4th stage cancer in some of our clients].
With that as background info for your visitor’s understanding, I can say I am beyond awed by this book. Now on my third reading through it, I see his information creating lots of questions [and demands for change] lobbed at the medical profession by the general public. The roars of acclaim from the physicians and other publicly known people, who have been diagnosed and healed by him over the decades is deafening!
BTW, it does include information on gout….. and fibromyalgia, Epstein-Barr, Lyme [which is not a bacterial infection, according to the author – it is a virus – hence the antibiotic protocol in treating Lyme is doing more harm than good], adrenal fatigue, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Diabetes, Shingles [the true cause of colitis and more], PTS disorder….and so much more. Truly, George, this information is 20 years or more beyond where medicine is today!
Since I am being measure for a new intraocular lens this morning, prior to the upcoming “repair job” on my left eye, this is just the kind of information that I find useful.
You may find it worthy, as well.
The main point of this morning? Well, simply take a very good look when someone says “Don’t look there” and casts it as a “fact.” Many times, especially when you are dealing with an ancient instruction set quite possibly left by inter-planetary Johnny Appleseed types to some knuckle-draggers at the time, there’s a good chance for human pollution of the message.
I’d argue that to the degree with have an economic system which can ONLY operate in a growth mode, and multiple religious groups that are waging wars for domination through violence and population, that we might want to spend a fair bit of time sorting the wheat from the chaff in order to peel back some of the marketing and get back to the core of being good people.
I know that is a terribly out of fashion thing to consider, but factions are warring and Common Sense is anything but, anymore.
Write when you break-even,