I must report to you that a terrible crisis is upon the world. What has long passed as New Age – with a heaping side of woo-woo – is being dashed on the rocks of Reality, grounded in Science. You see: This week I have been deeply thinking and contemplating on the implications of the recent discovery (late 2017) that homo sapiens– the upright apes that are us – have been around much longer than Science has previously.
Although the speciation H. sapiens is only now becoming clear, science has been very indecisive until the past couple of months, doing things like lumping Neanderthals into the H. sapiens species:
“Some sources show Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis) as a subspecies (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis).[4][5] Similarly, the discovered specimens of the Homo rhodesiensis species have been classified by some as a subspecies (Homo sapiens rhodesiensis), although it remains more common to treat these last two as separate species within the Homo genus rather than as subspecies within H. sapiens,”
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That has pretty much blown up now that a full-on Home Sapiens jaw has been discovered that is 180,000 years old.
If you haven’t been following, try some of these readings to catch up with class:
“180,000-year-old human fossil discovery changes what we thought we knew about mankind’s history.”
Key in this is that humans (constructed like us) left Africa at least 50,000 years sooner than had been popularized by academics. And even worse for them? The science is pouring in from places like Morocco that homo sapiens (the “wise man”) has been around for a thought-shifting 350,000 years.
Now, let us look at this By Vostok-ice-core-petit.png: NOAAderivative work:
The shocker in all this is that if you go first to the lowest chart and to 350,000 years (Morocco homo sapiens) and then up to the carbon dioxide levels, and temperature above that, you will see a pretty strong case for semi-regular planetary disaster.
But most meaningful of all? Humans have been around for 350,000 years and we are about due for our fourth Ice Age as a species.
My, ain’t that cool, or what?
This week, as I was looking at the data, I decided to go on a quest for books that would be useful in my new direction in personal research.
My thinking is terribly simple – IF humans have been around so damn long, surely we have evolved some organizations (at other than the DNA memory level) to perpetuate and hold all knowledge from a period.
Starting with Morocco, looks on the chart like 10-18-thousand years of knowledge accumulation would have been possible. Maybe the Big Chill then would have been of lesser importance for equatorial homo sapiens, but now with know that by 180,000 years ago – the “backside” of Ice Age II, we were ranging at least north of modern-day Israel.
Then, once again, after Ice Age III in the 25,000 year-ago period, we see humans popping up almost everywhere.
Roughly 13,000 years ago, the collision with likely remains of a comet [Clube and Napier] – and here comes Ice Age IV.
So good is the work of Viktor Clube and William Napier, that the US government has referred to it because it’s the kind of “big risk” (being smacked by a comet) that can really ruin your day.
As the National Public Library enter here notes:
“According to Napier, 13,000 years ago the earth was affected by a major, rapid cooling event that caused the extinction of a large number of species and a major disruption of paleoindian cultures. Previously thought to have been caused by an enormous asteroid crashing into the planet, Professor presented evidence that the cooling even was caused collision with “a dense trail of material from a large disintegrating comet.”
Now the problem that I’m chewing on is this: If an Ice Age IV comes to visit us eventually, other than a massive (and we assume messy, violent) die-off of perhaps all but a few hundred million (out of 7-billion eaters now) do we have mechanisms in place – geographically dispersed, too – to facilitate any kind of rapid recovery.
Or, are we – as past civilizations apparently have done – just stumble arounbd blindly trying to work through the wreckage and see what has been provide by Ma Nature on the backside.
For example, it’s quite possible that much of the plains states of today were once lush forests. With monster tornadic winds last who knows how many years, how long would it take for two events to occur that made the coal fields of Appalachia?
We might be able to model it, since we have a good idea that the 13,000 year ago event was long after-effects deal. If pieces of a comet rained down causing something larger than nuclear winter, but first with 600-mile per hour winds…well, that would push some brush up against eastern mountains, for sure.
And likely with enough residual crap in the atmosphere to reduce Earth’s albedo (for a while). Higher absorption of solar heat might have prevented something of a Martian outcome (stripped atmosphere, after Immanuel Velikovsky’s work).
Fine, so far, right? But how does “New Age” figure into this?
In my most recent book, I recount a meeting with someone from Tibet once upon a time…and ever since, I have been trying to track down him, his order, and more about the purported guardians of Humanity’s Hidden Past.
What has come out is either disinformation or just rank speculation. But I keep reading. Sometimes with a fair amount of disappointment.
One book I power-read this week was The Book of Secret Wisdom: The Prophetic Record of Human Destiny and Evolution. Where I got disappointed was when the pieces about “Those born after 2012 will” in so many words witness immortals being born.
Maybe science will get there (we’re already working on telomere extension techniques to reverse aging) but such “New Age” books seem long on flowery verbiage and short of really useful data.
My next round will be some Edgar Casey books since the “sleeping prophet” has a very good rep. But, from my own experiences in The Realms (of dreams) I appreciate that there are almost uncountable distortions carrying a concept from “over there” to “over here” on the waking side.
The old New Age is in trouble, though. When you look up past/mythical ancient worlds, they don’t match up with reality now emerging from archeological digs.
Take Lemuria for example. Wikipedia places it when?
“In 1864, “The Mammals of Madagascar” by zoologist and biogeographer Philip Sclater appeared in The Quarterly Journal of Science. Using a classification he referred to as lemurs but which included related primate groups,[4] and puzzled by the presence of their fossils in both Madagascar and India but not in Africa or the Middle East, Sclater proposed that Madagascar and India had once been part of a larger continent (he was correct in this; though in reality this was the supercontinent Pangaea).
The Lemuria theory disappeared completely from conventional scientific consideration after the theories of plate tectonics and continental drift were accepted by the larger scientific community. According to the theory of plate tectonics, Madagascar and India were indeed once part of the same landmass (thus accounting for geological resemblances), but plate movement caused India to break away millions of years ago, and move to its present location. The original landmass, the supercontinent Gondwana, broke apart; it did not sink beneath sea level.
In 1999, drilling by the JOIDES Resolution research vessel in the Indian Ocean discovered evidence[7] that a large island, the Kerguelen Plateau, was submerged about 20 million years ago by rising sea levels. Samples showed pollen and fragments of wood in a 90-million-year-old sediment. Although this discovery might encourage scholars to expect similarities in dinosaur fossil evidence, and may contribute to understanding the breakup of the Indian and Australian land masses, it does not support the concept of Lemuria as a land bridge for mammals.
In 2013, the study of grains of sand from the beaches of Mauritius led to the conclusion that a similar landmass would have existed between 2 billion and 85 million years ago.”
Even so, the timelines don’t come anywhere near matching the Lemuria narrative of the New Agers.
There’s a bit more going for Atlantis, but here too, there are plenty of issues to be addressed:
The only primary sources for Atlantis are Plato’s dialogues Timaeus and Critias; all other mentions of the island are based on them. The dialogues claim to quote Solon, who visited Egypt between 590 and 580 BC; they state that he translated Egyptian records of Atlantis.[19] Written in 360 BC, Plato introduced Atlantis in Timaeus:
Besides Plato, we have lots of other “pseudohistory” of Atlantis including this note:
“Much speculation began as to the origins of the Maya, which led to a variety of narratives and publications that tried to rationalize the discoveries within the context of the Bible and that had undertones of racism in their connections between the Old and New World. The Europeans believed the indigenous people to be inferior and incapable of building that which was now in ruins and by sharing a common history, they insinuate that another race must have been responsible.
In the middle and late nineteenth century, several renowned Mesoamerican scholars, starting with Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg, and including Edward Herbert Thompson and Augustus Le Plongeon, formally proposed that Atlantis was somehow related to Mayan and Aztec culture.”
Because of how religions and mind control (of followers) works, any notion of a Mayan civilization collapse due to an inundation would likely be wrong. Most probably, the Chiczulub Crater (northern Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico, was either a singular cometary fragment (of the 13,000 BC event) or was an event unto itself.
Is it possible that both Plato and others writing of Atlantis are referencing this event, or, are there other crater fragments we’re not seeing because of acculturation bias?
Notwithstanding, the New Age literature seems to have served a useful purpose, if nothing more than sparking enough media interest in the “lands of ancient woo-woo” to get funding and do some actual research.
But as for Halls of Akashic Records and hidden troves in the Himalayan mountains. You tell me where and I’m willing to do look. But after lots of research on promising leads, damned if there’s a pressing need to buy an airplane ticket yet.
Still, time though, if you want to send the long-term (200,000 year and longer) guardians along, I’ll buy ’em a beer and interview ’em.
Lots of questions to ask…and for all our science, still not enough answers in the “demon-haunted world.”
Write when you get rich,
George@ure.net
When I first saw New Age in the title this morning I thought you were going to talk about the Ramtha lady from Yelm, WA JZ Knight! I am sure you remember her!
lol (he said in a strangle affected voice…)
Ironic that we can read stone cuneiform script from 5000 BP (before present) but that data on my 5-1/4″ CP/M floppy disk from the 1980s is hopelessly lost.
Israel (mentioned in your linked article) is a rich source of both Cro Magnon, Neanderthal, and their early hybrids remains. Nowadays they’re more well known for excellent software.
Not sure it is best case to pass on the “wisdom” of this age to the next. We have so rejected all common sense I think they would be better served to start from scratch.
Would we have been served discovering an Atlantean journal offering 5 year olds the option of transgendering themselves? Me thinks not. We can’t even agree on an origin or date for the Sphinx.
The vast majority of people live near the coasts. And that’s where most industry, university libraries and research facilities are. If a dramatic enough event happened, prior civilizations would have lost numbers, brains and facilities in one go.
The survivors were probably too busy scrambling for their next meal to try to save civilization’s knowledge base.
If we lost electricity, we would not be knocked back to the 1860s….1860 had a broad technology base which does not exist today except among hobbyists & the Amish.
It’s hard to say where a crash of that nature would stop…but until a reliable means food production is achieved, it won’t stop. That could be along way down.
Michael Cremo’s OOPARTS research impresses me the most. Your graphs indicate how what he has found could be possible. The truth may be even stranger.
I see the cyclical catastrophe pattern as a sort of reboot. Humanity may have brought the ecosystem many times before to a similar point of destruction only to have us smacked down so the planet could rebuild everything.
We don’t know nearly as much as we like to think we do. At 72, I am amazed that, over the years through reading and contemplation, the more I learn the more I recognize that I don’t know *bleep*. It is fun for me to dig into this general topic. I just remind myself that what I believe I know is only good for today.
You mean like yoga, which isn’t a 4500 year old technique, but was adopted from Denmark’s turn of the century military manuals for physical training. Say it ain’t so LOL
Your mention of the Himalayas and Tibetan monasteries brought to mind a Religious reference with similar thoughts. ( 13 to 30 ) Not the movie but reference to The Christ’s travels until at age 30 He started His ministry. Not much, if anything mentioned anywhere about those years.
With evidence that homo sapiens have walked the earth for nearly a quarter million years it would seem that the odds of advanced cultures having existed in the past has increased somewhat. A lot of evidence can disappear in a few 10s of thousands of years.
About Coal:
Bituminous coal is formed under more heat and pressure than other types, and is 100 million to 300 million years old.–National Geographic
I think coal still goes back a bit further than the earliest upright apes.
Thought you might find this interesting about the blond white skinned cloud people in Peru.
https://www.chimuadventures.com/blog/2017/02/cloud-people-peru/
I’m still waiting for them to dig up a fossilized transistor radio!
Hi, George,
Over the last few years, more and more evidence has been revealed to strongly suggest that humans have been on this planet a lot longer than the textbooks would ever have you believe. The Egyptologists have been experiencing a meltdown regarding the new evidence about the age of the Sphinx and the pyramids. They are doing everything they can to disparage these new findings because they do not ever want to lose control of the narrative and their stranglehold on Egyptology. They want to remain the experts and hold absolute authority on the subject.
I remember reading somewhere the body of the sphinx is 25,000 years old and the head oon it is only 5000 years old.
If the data dating process was made by man it was wrong.
because along with all the other scientific knowledge that were supposed to know and is keep kept hidden secret the same goes with data processing of age of things it’s wrong it’s wrong
George,
Now throw in the “feathered serpent” effect of extinction level events (Maurice Cotterrell).
I remember just a while back where the sun had a strange snake like squiggle visible on the surface and the msm had a couple of brief articles saying ‘science’ didn’t know what to make of it. Then it disappeared and so did any talk about it on my regular news sources.
When I think about that and cycles, I think about the rainbow and not by water (ice), but by fire prognostications.
This ‘immortality’ business is a ponder though…been working on that for awhile.
Stay rich, my friend.
IMO the “Darwinians” have done science a great disservice. They’ve bastardized Darwin’s work, by preaching the “Man evolved from apes” thing. Man did not evolve from apes – it evolved from Man, and it did so a long time ago.
Since Man is not known for dumping its genetic material selectively, our distant ancestors undoubtedly bred with near-man species, and there may (or may not) have been issue from those unions. Whether we possess cromag or Neanderthal or Java DNA is, as I see it, irrelevant, ‘cuz whether we do or we don’t, our species is who we are, now…
I would guess two things with respect to ancient Man:
1. When trying to decipher writings, archaeologists and anthropologists assume a uniform language. IMO since written languages didn’t exist, glyphs are highly localized to area, time period, and ruler or scribe. A water symbol is likely to look similar, wherever and from whatever time period it’s found. A sun, planet, or animal symbol, less so. A social symbol? Ya gots ta be kidding me!
2. There are thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of glyphs, created by common man to chronicle the ELE which was overtaking his civilization at the time — none of which have ever been found, because they’re in decentralized towns or on farms, with a couple hundred feet of dirt on top of them. They are nowhere near population or cultural centers, and so have never, and probably will never, be located or seen.
We are a species with a notoriously short attention span, which has been made exponentially worse by the advancements of the information age. We tend to forget technology quickly when faced with hardship, and abandon it completely during extended periods of tribulation.
The people of Ur had hot & cold running water plumbed in their dwellings, to supply their private, indoor, bathrooms and flush toilets, 3500 years ago. After its fall, it took Man nearly 3000 years to “rediscover” these sanitary societal amenities…
Ray, your theory sounds kind of Adam and Eve..ish to me. Or did earthly mankind come from alien visitors in our current form? The Adam and Eve story is based in incest and unbelievable except to believers. What I’ve always wondered is where did Asian almond shaped eye features come from and Asians may wonder where Caucasian (non-Asian features) come from.
Im completely fine with my monkey-ape and whatever they were before that, origins.
So, what do you believe we were, before we were monkeys?
Why have the greater primates not also evolved into Man?
If the Garden Story is based in incest, what did God inject Adam’s semen into to produce Eve?
(Assuming you’ve read Genesis) from where did Adam’s progeny acquire mates?
You contemplate Mongoloid eyes, yet ignore Black and Red peoples’ pigmentation?
Irrespective of color, Man is of one race and one descendacy, else our genetic material couldn’t key to make issue. Why then, are there Black, and White, and Red, and Yellow people?
Before you suggest these are inbred archetypes, can you tell me from where they originated?
I am a Christian.
I have no problem wrapping my head around the idea that God, or His Agents (um, we call them “Angels”) terraformed Earth or at least tweaked the makeup of its most-advanced species.
I have no problem, accepting as “at least, possible” that several different Angels tweaked the humans in their charge, with slightly different optimization sets.
I also have no issue with the concept of the Garden Story as being either absolute truth, or parable told to people thousands of years too socially immature to comprehend God’s actual truth.
People who know me call this “openmindedness.” I call it the curse of having read “The Lost Books of the Bible” and a bunch of other interesting pieces of print matter, before I was in double-digits…
Who did Adam and Eve’s kids have sex with?
(Assuming you’ve read Genesis) from where did Adam’s progeny acquire mates?
“do we have mechanisms in place – geographically dispersed, too – to facilitate any kind of rapid recovery.”
I think we do have mechanisms in place , or we’re working desperately hard to get them in place.
I have often wondered if such programming on tv wasn’t in some way connected to a study as to whether or not mankind could survive in the event of a catastrophic event.
Unfortunately the USA is far behind other countries. Russia,China etc. work hard to teach their population and provide the means. The same with healthcare and other basic needs. While here those luxuries are only provided for the very few.
Let’s say a pandemic. While there’s thirty percent without adequate coverage. And thirty percent without any. It would spread like wildfire.
A cataclysmic earthquake etc. people rushing to make a-several thousand mile journey for shelter.
History has many lost libraries even today if a cataclysmic event took place our society would be thrust back to the stoneage. Our material resources would be around for a few years but eventually we would have to replace the materials we have used up. At one point we had the education and industrial manufacturing capabilities. Today we have outsourced all of that for a number on a screen. Many would never know how to make something as simple as a pencil or paper.
Just like today we haven’t regained the capabilities of building the pyramids in the timeframe that was used then.
By dumbing down our youth and outsourcing our industries has basically undermined our own chances of survival as a species in the event of a SHTF scenario. By neglecting to include the general public will work as a two edged sword. In the event of a SHTF scenario my fear is it would be total chaos where the ones left ruling will not be who they plan to be the ruling class instead it will be those with tactical training and experience.
In many lands and cultures where the written knowledge isn’t necessarily available. Even today many cultures outlaw females to be taught to read or write. The female species is basically considered a property only worthy for reproduction. Children are not considered valuable either. Many teach their families through telling fireside stories about their families.
Even in our family I heard stories of my ancestors. It wasn’t until my grandmother passed on and all the dignitaries that showed up that full realization of the significance of those stories of adventure and exploration.
Seems some of my historical lineage were quite famous and taught in every school.. in fact one is on a tv special coming up on the history channel.. but this member was hated by everyone in the family until our generation. Lol lol lol seems he was a ranger mutt that ran off leaving everyone during the worst part of the year. Then had the audacity to return with a young Indian maid in tow that lived in a shack in the woods lol lol lol
If you’re going to strive to live a long time you know maybe 256 years or even a hundred I’m 66 and if I make it through this year wow I’ve accomplished something and their secrets to that.
The main secret is do not eat food eat her herbs and spices.
For instance if you start having chest pains you can take some Viagra and that will help because that’s what Viagra was initially made for but anyway let’s get back to spices and herbs.
If you have chest pains a BEER will help yes a beer will relax the blood vessels.
But a spice or that does or herb whatever you want to call it is garlic it’s your fresh garlic feel it and take a little nibble of it if you can’t stand it wait a little longer till it dilutes cuz it’s like pepper you know it’s really really strong and take another bite and then take another bite and then you’ll notice all the sudden you don’t have those chest pains anymore because it dilates them.
Anyway I posted a thing that told about the guy that lived to be 256 years old he didn’t eat food he ate herbs and spices that was his garden and that’s what he ate that was the secret to long life.
So I’m thinking Bryce’s lazy porch Garden should have nothing but herbs and spices if he wants to live longer than 66.
I’m still going to grow spinach and other things as such cabbage and onions onions is a very good it’s almost looks like a spice yeah good for you but garlic is so much better.
And the best thing of all is being able to take your stomach muscles and roll them they caught Kegel I guess being able to roll your stomach that way you don’t have to take no laxatives if you can roll your stomach you have the ability to push the excrement through your intestines when the system normally fails because of not eating the right Foods..
Old age New Age I have no idea.
Except I like monographs way of giving a toast when he has a chatty do.
He says this is a toast , here’s to me and here’s to you .here’s to old,here’s to new.
Montagraph
George
” Most probably, the Chiczulub Crater (northern Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico, was either a singular cometary fragment (of the 13,000 BC event) or was an event unto itself.”
I was under the impression that that event happened about 65 million years ago and is credited with killing off the Dino’s.
You might also check out a youtube video: Decoding the Ice Age Floods: Catastrophic Meltdown (With Randall Carlson at Mt. St. Helens) #2
I’ll remind you of a several years old comment: In a early teen age trip with our parents Big Al and I viewed Mt. Rushmore. As the clouds cleared and the faces came into view my mother observed:in the future they will say “they had strange Gods”.
I can testify that capture of knowledge in government programs is a losing proposition. Tasked with “design knowledge capture” as part of the Space Station Program it became apparent that the process would be overcome before the program launched its first element. This another example of “Garbage in Gospel out”.
Also ask Big AL about visiting the quancet huts down by the Tennessee river after a big storm and seeing the water mark on the wall a few feet above the tops of the file cabinets. And then the emptying of the drawers of pulp that had been the drawing files of the Saturn Program. (A visit to the Davidson Center to see the last Saturn V that hasn’t been hit by a hurricane or flooded – They built strange and intricate monuments Mom would have said).
We aren’t wired to save up memories. We are wired to be curious and inquisitive. As powers of whatever motive breed that out of us we become the man to be served like in the Twilight Zone.
Hi George, normally I just write you directly, however this topic is worth talking about in a more public arena.
Where as I have been seriously involved in UFO & ET research since August 1986 and have some street cred’s as a speaker on the subject, let me share this link:
http://rune.galactic.to/colonisation.html
On my older computers, I spent a lot of time referencing out many of the more recent events that tie into our history since the Atlantis Mu War. I was able to find much geological data that matched the years given in the event structure.
I also pulled a lot of reference material from the books UFO Contact from the Pleiades by Wendelle Stevens. I knew Wendelle and spoke with him many times down through the years. I was able to discuss any questions I might have about time and dates in that case.
With in months of getting involved with the UFO topic I met a family that was having direct unpublished private contact with the Pleiadians right here near Tucson. The contact was confirmed in many many physical ways over the period between 1986 and 1996.
Because of the quality of the contact, I came to really trust the data given.
I urge you and your readers to learn as much as possible from this page. It is a solid guide. Note the first settlement was 22,000,000 years ago. That’s right that is 22 million B.C.
Note the Giza Pyramid’s built 71,344 BC. The Lyran’s built the pyramids in Egypt and around the Earth.
Note that war breaks out on Milona and it is blown up. That was 195,960 BC. It causes Mars to lose its atmosphere and all life is lost.
In the list you will see the settlement times for Lemuria, Atlantis & MU as well as time that Atlantis & Mu destroyed them-selves. That was a one day war in June.
To conclude, at the present this is the best page I can refer you to. There is another page very similar to this, which I felt was better. This page may have some channeled information. I do not feel comfortable with channeled material. The original page was information purely from the Pleiadians. But, this page will do just fine for now.
If anyone finds the other page I refer to, please post the link.
Enjoy, Roger
Hi George, I wanted to correct what I said about the Giza Pyramid. I came across additional information that is new to me. Seems they were built, then rebuilt a number of times. The website I am exploring is full of solid not speculative information. So this is reliable and trustworthy.
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/The_Great_Pyramid
Edgar Cayce via the ARE, has the best information on the Atlanteans, the destruction of Atlantis, and the building of the Great Pyramid, who built it, how old it is, how long it took to build it, and many other details. Well worth the effort. Plus, the Mayans, Essenes, Jesus, his lost years, purpose on the earth and how it relates to each of us, as well as many other fascinating details. Predictions, health readings, treatments, dream interpretation, and much more.
It is Science that is being dashed on the rocks of woo woo.
Its probably best to start by asking ourselves, “How would we preserve any records for 100,000 years?” Ideally, it would be redundant, remote, readable with no tech, and contain its own “Rosetta Stone.”
Best solution, IMHO, would be copies of the Encyclopedia Brittanica etched into glass in microfiche form with carbon in the etchings. Take these glass fiches to the North Pole of the Moon. Then machine some slabs of moon rock, mount the glass fiches on the rock slabs.
Carve a giant smiling head out of a lunar mountain, Rushmore-style. Then dig a cave into that mountain and put the tablets inside, in order.
Then carve a large reflector outside the mountain so that, once a month when the shadow line crosses over it, it makes a brilliant point of light on the moon that can be seen with the naked eye. As an option, you could throw in a solar-powered, nuclear-hardened radio station that would transmit the contents of the Brittanica in Morse Code every 10 years to anyone that points a dish antenna at it. That’s the public program.
You also make another cave secretly at the South Pole of the Moon and put a duplicate copy of the Britannica tablets there, preferably in the trunk of the Tesla Model S that Elon Musk will donate for that purpose. This is your backup in case some future Isis-tollah-equivalent decides to send a mission to smash the blasphemous materials on the moon.
That’s my best idea–
And now, assuming similar thoughts 20 to 100,000 years ago, we know where to look for THEIR britannica (and their Tesla Model S…)