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Beyond Chatbots: Building a Silicon Animal – France: Viva la Wave!

George Ure has written multiple books exploring artificial intelligence, including Mind Amplifiers, Co-Intelligence, Test-Fitting Apes, Theomachines, The Judgment Engine, and AI: Thinking on the Gallows.

So, when he ventures into new AI territory, there’s a substantial body of earlier thinking behind it.

Today’s Peoplenomics research goes considerably further than proposing a thinner, less computationally expensive alternative to today’s enormous AI models.

It asks whether we can build something closer to the functional architecture of a human mind: a continuously active system that learns from experience, develops preferences, remembers, forgets, makes consequential choices, and even processes information during sleep-like periods.

The proposed Volitional Observer Host Architecture (VOHA) explores whether recognizable individuality can emerge from the interaction of memory, noise, learning, and choice. Its longer-range Carbon-to-Silicon (C2S) project asks whether those processes can be sustained inside a relatively modest computer.

And this isn’t just armchair speculation. Today’s release includes an eight-page research paper documenting eight experiments, a programming framework, and a 22-page Python source codebook so technically inclined readers can inspect the methods and reproduce the simulations.

No claim that machine consciousness has been created. No declaration that the mystery of the human Observer has been solved.

Just an unusually ambitious question, some preliminary experimental findings, and the code to let others investigate.

What if the next major advance in AI comes not from building a bigger brain, but from learning how to grow a smaller one?

Details of Ure’s research (intended for the public domain) are available on his AI research site,  VOHA: The Emergence and Persistence of Behavioral Identity in Stochastic Learning Agents – Hidden Guild.

And yes, today’s Peoplenomics also includes our 37-page ChartPack and a life-useful briefing of compressed world news.

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  1. riginee riginee riginee . keep the facista capo tech bosses richer , the tyrants more tyranical and the poor poorer and more enslaved . ohh sheet yeah robots and AI is great !!! if yah belong to the capo club

  2. https://github.com/storytold/gridcraft/releases/tag/v0.8.0

    Well… we have heard AI might make software… no longer worthy to invest in. Now I agree… above is a github release of MS Excel.. it is amazing this outfit has created all of Microsoft office products.. just amazing. they rebuilt all the office products. I tested this Excel yesterday.. it even has the linear program in it too. amazing. Now i think a lot of jobs will go…

    Pete

    Background story:
    https://www.tomshardware.com/software/microsoft-office/creator-of-free-adobe-clones-unveils-open-source-microsoft-office-excel-powerpoint-and-word-replications-autodesk-tools-and-other-subscription-based-services-may-come-next

      • Marcus Tiberius told me that the first ‘industry’ to suffer a major collapse would be the software designers and engineers. “They will be replaced, en mass by A.I.”

        The above sort of – kind of – shows just how right he could be.

      • Overall, reviews on ArtCraft indicate it is a work in progress, not at the development level of packages like Apache OpenOffice, LibreOffice or similar commercial products. The tools included are fairly specialized as well. Once the software is more mature, I might take a peek, but I don’t see me using it on a regular basis.

  3. very very soon if your can kickin your gunna stub your toes . injury . WD Gann would be so proud of the markets behaviour this week . love WD

  4. I have., with malice aforethought, refused to read the Python code papers. [ I did save the papers and links to my Python Code Notes.]
    I just can’t do it right now. Burned out. In the last 91 days of writing/coding J.A.R.V.I.S. I lost 19 pounds. NOT a weight loss program that I recommend.
    The article you posted was rather brilliant and very interesting. But coding that into a workable, sustainable mathematical “entity” boggles my brain – though it is very tempting. Very tempting indeed….,
    Laying out the process – the “plan of attack” just to ‘start’ coding would probably cost me another 10 pounds….,

    Nah – it’ll have to wait.., I am busy trying to have some well-earned fun.

    “Stay Frosty!”

    • Sorry but you may be taking my report far too seriously – ozempic replaced by python bite? No – seriously – I work as little as possible on the mundane thinking tasks anymore. I simply task the fleet – send them out to grunty work while I play in the shop. They deliver models on demand and as I have said in AI:Thinking on the Gallows – our highest value is as thought directors – that will be a tough one for ais to replace.

  5. On Social Democrats …

    In 1959, the US operated under FDR’s social democrat reforms and Ike’s wariness of the military-industrial complex.

    American citizens, the middle class, in particular, have been thoroughly screwed by US corporations, by corporation and Zionist lobbyists, and politicians completely owned by those lobbyists.

    George, I asked AI:

    What would the US government deficit be if corporate and private taxes were the same as in 1959, NAFTA and trade agreements with China had not been implemented, Reagan budgetary deficits were kept to 2%, and the US were not involved in Vietnam and middle east wars including Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran?

    AI Response:

    Under this exact combination of counterfactual conditions, the U.S. federal budget would likely be running a massive structural surplus, completely eliminating the national deficit and drastically reducing or erasing the accumulated national debt. [1]While a definitive numeric figure cannot be calculated due to how deeply these variables alter global and domestic GDP, economists and budget models outline the compounding effects of these structural changes:1. Reverting to 1959 Corporate and Private Tax LevelsThe Impact: In 1959, the top marginal individual income tax rate was 91%, and the top corporate tax rate was 52%.The Revenue Difference: Today, federal revenues hover around 17% to 18% of GDP. Returning to the 1959 tax structure—even factoring in economic behavior modifications (the Laffer Curve effect)—would heavily skew collections toward corporations and high earners, significantly driving up revenues as a percentage of GDP. [1, 2, 3]2. Capping Reagan-Era Deficits at 2% of GDPThe Impact: During the 1980s, President Reagan’s budget deficits peaked at 6% of GDP in 1983 due to a combination of tax cuts and Cold War military spending.The Compounding Savings: Forcing these deficits down to a strict 2% ceiling would have averted hundreds of billions of dollars in 1980s discretionary spending. More importantly, it would have stopped the compound interest cascade, preventing trillions in modern debt-servicing costs.3. Avoiding the Vietnam and Post-9/11 Middle East WarsThe Impact: The direct and indirect financial costs of major U.S. conflicts are a primary driver of modern debt:Vietnam War: ~$843 Billion (inflation-adjusted).Post-9/11 Wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, and regional conflicts): Exceeds $8 Trillion when including direct operations, interest on war borrowing, and lifetime veteran medical care. [1, 2]The Deficit Savings: Without these wars, trillions of dollars would have remained unborrowed, completely resetting the baseline of U.S. discretionary spending. [1]4. No NAFTA or China Trade Agreements The Impact: This is the most unpredictable variable. Preventing NAFTA and blocking trade integration with China would have preserved certain domestic manufacturing sectors, protecting traditional local tax bases. [1, 2]The Trade-Off: However, consumer goods would be substantially more expensive, domestic inflation would likely have been higher, and overall U.S. corporate expansion would have faced tighter growth limits. This would result in a smaller overall economic pie (lower total GDP), though a higher percentage of that smaller pie would be taxed under the 1959 rates. The Bottom Line:Today’s actual annual deficit fluctuates heavily based on economic cycles. However, by removing over $9 trillion in direct war costs, introducing a 91% top tax bracket, and wiping out decades of compounding interest from the 1980s forward, the federal government would have completely inverted its financial position. Rather than debating deficit ceilings, the U.S. would likely be managing a multi-trillion-dollar sovereign wealth surplus.

    • Excellent question, especially due to current circumstances:
      https://www.pgpf.org/article/full-array-of-republican-tax-cuts-could-add-9-trillion-to-the-national-debt/
      ‘The tax cuts proposed by President Trump and Republican leaders would reduce tax revenues by $7.8 trillion through the 2025–2034 budget period, according to the Tax Foundation. If not offset with spending cuts or tax increases, the tax cuts would increase deficits by $9.1 trillion over 10 years, including related interest costs. Fully extending the TCJA would cost approximately $5.0 trillion, while other elements of Trump’s tax agenda also have large price tags over ten years:’

      https://www.aei.org/commentary/the-federal-government-booked-a-1-8-trillion-deficit-last-year/
      One Big BullShit Bill Act:
      ‘One Big Beautiful Bill Act, included tax cuts and large spending increases for border control and national defense. CBO estimates the law will add $3.4 trillion in deficits by 2034. The Tax Foundation, a Washington, D.C., think tank that has studied taxation for the better part of a century, attributes $3 trillion in red ink to the bill.

      A chronically high deficit “pushes up inflation and interest rates, slows economic growth, and increases the risk of a debt crisis,’

    • Except there would have been no economic boom in the 1960s, ’80s, ’90s, or 20-teens, and jobs would likely have been offshored, beginning in the 1960s instead of the 1980s, as both manufacturing and growth would have been strangled by stagflation and those tax rates.

      If you’re going to run theoretical exercises like this, you should perhaps ask your AI what our economy would look like if Federal welfare programs had not been installed (~$36tln + millions of broken homes since 1964), if we had remained on the gold standard, if Kennedy had not been assassinated or Nixon framed out of office, if we had not overthrown the Shah in the 1970s (or if we had overthrown Saddam Hussein), if Greenspan had allowed the Dow to crash into Depression in 2000 (as it should have), etc.

      And when you’ve done this, you should ask it about the repercussions, for each scenario.

      We had a 91% top marginal tax rate because we were paying for a couple wars. That tax rate was cut to 70% in the early 1960s and 50% in the early ’70s as debt from WW-II was retired. Vietnam was a net moneymaking enterprise (ask LBJ), except for 50,009 dead Americans and another 150k (or so) who sustained crippling injuries.

      You can’t weigh any theoretical act or action honestly, unless you also fully consider all its collateral consequences. That 1950s 91% TMTB was for wage earners above $200k AGI (which is roughly $2,500,000 in today’s currency.) That said, my Dad, as a journeyman toolmaker, was making about $3.60/hr in 1960, and paying about 22.5 percent. Several years later my HS friend Eric got married, bought a house, and made several babies, as sole breadwinner, on $68/wk.

      • R, you conveniently exclude the deficit burden of Post 9/11 Wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc) ($8 Trillion adjusted for inflation), Debt to GDP before = 55%, Debt to GDP After = 124% …..For fun, just add the Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich into the equation! Ohh…there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction, but Mass Delusion works every time lol!!

        Scroll down to the bottom of the list:
        https://www.us-debt-clock.com/blog/effect-of-wars-on-us-national-debt

        https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/the-legacy-of-the-2001-and-2003-bush-tax-cuts
        ‘High-income taxpayers benefitted most from these tax cuts, with the top 1 percent of households receiving an average tax cut of over $570,000 between 2004-2012 (increasing their after-tax income by more than 5 percent each year). Despite promises from proponents of the tax cuts, evidence suggests that they did not improve economic growth or pay for themselves, but instead ballooned deficits and debt and contributed to a rise in income inequality.’

  6. re: “Aladdin and the Magic Lamp”, 1992
    feat: gulf Genie & royal waves

    Move over Robin Hood and Maid Marion! Thus far the website of Nottingham environs’ largest food bank, Himmah (arabic: “higher ambition”), has not been updated with news of a quasi-royal visit to their fine establishment. Yesterday the organization welcomed its patron, the Duchess of Sussex, whose cookbook sales help float their charitable boat. The Duchess appeared on msm platforms packing paper bags with inexpensive foodstuffs. I don’t know if she received a comped meal in recognition of her efforts.

    Meanwhile the King and Queen along with the Prince and Princess of Wales welcomed the Sultan of Oman to Windsor Castle. They along with 160 invited guests sat down in St. George’s Hall for a State Banquet. ChatGPT sourced banquet menu details from ITVX, a 4 year old UK streaming service. Late last year the service received a new owner that is a subsidiary to the global telecommunications giant Comcast which is headquartered in Philadelphia, Pa.

    The banquet’s starter course offered a “croute of Scottish langiustine and Cornish crab”. A main course delivered “pot-roasted Windsor pheasant with spiced quince”.

    Hold the cake! Dessert consisted of baked alaska. A plum tree at Balmoral Castle supplied its fruit. Royal preppers sourced honey from the Windsor Estate.

    The usual alcoholic digestif took an evening off. Instead a trio of teas with Omani flavorings settled upon any tummy tempests like oil on troubled waters.

  7. My wife makes the best mac and cheese around… but she makes it a little different..

    2 cups elbow macaroni
    2 cups shredded cheddar cheese ( she uses Velveeta to )
    1–1 1/2 cups milk
    2 tablespoons butter
    Salt and pepper to taste

    mix the cheese in along with the spices..
    then into the baking dish, pot the milk over it and in the oven…I think she uses 350 degrees..
    there’s times she makes it on the stovetop..the milk to cook it in is the true secret.. most people boil their macaroni in water or broth.. then tossing all the starches down the drain…

    • Note that like powdered and crumbled cheese, shredded cheese is 4% sawdust. Granddaughter thought she hated Parmesan cheese. I visited upon her mom a package of real Parm cubes a few weeks back. Come to find out junior loves parmesan; she hates sawdust.

      The coda: Last week’s visit involved a wedge of aged parm and a cheese grater (and NO cellulose.) Grandling is happy. Daughter is thrilled. Italian is back on the dinner menu…

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